Wikipedia yields no answer. I mean they're both "diaphragm suspended between two poles (charged driver units)", right? So what's the big difference?
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum) › Difference between "electrostatic" and "ribbon"?
Join Now
Be a part of the community.
It's free, join today!
Recent Reviews
-
I didn't think of TEAC when I began searching for a dedicated CD player. My initial short list included Denon, Cambridge, Marantz, Onkyo. The Teac intrigued me, so I went for it. It is very...
-
short terms: compact, loud, nice sounding, cheap ultraportables. detailed terms: AKG in the house ( fun, smooth, bassy, bright-warm & clear presentation ) cool for mainstream song...
-
Sennheiser HD-598s are the most comfortable headphones I've had the opportunity to use. I recommend these wholeheartedly for any first-time hi-fi buyer because of their excellent soundstage and...
-
I just received my SigPros (bought from a fellow head-fi'er), and now have several hours with them. They are great headphones. Agree with most of what everyone's saying about them. These...
-
Beats out the Bose Triport, the HD 202 and HD 435s, the AT M35 and AT M50. Just try it and see. Extremely comfortable (I wear mine while commuting and studying, for about 5+ hours a day). Bought...
Head-Fi Sponsors
Drop by and thank our partners for helping keep the lights on at Head-Fi!
Difference between "electrostatic" and "ribbon"?
post #2 of 7
10/17/10 at 9:23pm
- Uncle Erik
- Trader Feedback: 0
- Uncle Exotic
-
- offline
- 22,850 Posts. Joined 3/2006
- Location: The Low Desert
- Select All Posts By This User
Oh, there's a big difference.
An electrostat has a diaphragm, usually a polymer, stretched tight and between two charged stators. The stators need a high voltage supply to charge them.
A ribbon is a strip of aluminum (usually) that is sometimes corrugated, that hangs between rows of permanent magnets. The ribbon cannot be stretched tight and it sits in the magnetic gap between the magnets. You'll have magnets turned to the positive on one side and negative on the other. You'll pass the signal through the ribbon.
You'll also find quasi-ribbons with foil conductors stuck to a membrane of some type, and you'll also find planars which are sort of a combination. A planar will have something like a stator, but with a bunch of magnets on it. The diaphragm will have a conductor etched onto it, so the driver will move back and forth similar to thhe action of an electrostat.
Another interesting variation is the AMT, or Air Motion Transformer. It has a planar-like diaphragm folded like an accordion hung between magnets.
In headphones, you'll find electrostats from Stax, Sennheiser, Koss and a few others. There are a number of planars, but the Audez'e models are popular now. Ergo makes an AMT (see Duggeh's review). And no one has brought to market a ribbon headphone, though I've seen a couple of prototypes.
I build a pair of ribbon speakers a few years back - they're wonderful, but it's hard to get bass out of them. Also have picked up a pair of ESS AMTs and Quad ESL-63s. Haven't had any Magnepans (planars) yet, but will pick up a pair one of these days.
Another interesting alternative technology is plasma. There were some plasma tweeters marketed some years back and, IIRC, even a pair of plasma headphones, but I can't remember the details. There are also a couple of DIY plasma tweeter projects if you're interested.
And while on the topic, look up field coil speakers. They have a cone and a voicecoil like a conventional speaker, but use an electromagnet instead of a permanent magnet. You'll find them manufactured by Supravox, Fertin and a couple of boutique manufacturers.
An electrostat has a diaphragm, usually a polymer, stretched tight and between two charged stators. The stators need a high voltage supply to charge them.
A ribbon is a strip of aluminum (usually) that is sometimes corrugated, that hangs between rows of permanent magnets. The ribbon cannot be stretched tight and it sits in the magnetic gap between the magnets. You'll have magnets turned to the positive on one side and negative on the other. You'll pass the signal through the ribbon.
You'll also find quasi-ribbons with foil conductors stuck to a membrane of some type, and you'll also find planars which are sort of a combination. A planar will have something like a stator, but with a bunch of magnets on it. The diaphragm will have a conductor etched onto it, so the driver will move back and forth similar to thhe action of an electrostat.
Another interesting variation is the AMT, or Air Motion Transformer. It has a planar-like diaphragm folded like an accordion hung between magnets.
In headphones, you'll find electrostats from Stax, Sennheiser, Koss and a few others. There are a number of planars, but the Audez'e models are popular now. Ergo makes an AMT (see Duggeh's review). And no one has brought to market a ribbon headphone, though I've seen a couple of prototypes.
I build a pair of ribbon speakers a few years back - they're wonderful, but it's hard to get bass out of them. Also have picked up a pair of ESS AMTs and Quad ESL-63s. Haven't had any Magnepans (planars) yet, but will pick up a pair one of these days.
Another interesting alternative technology is plasma. There were some plasma tweeters marketed some years back and, IIRC, even a pair of plasma headphones, but I can't remember the details. There are also a couple of DIY plasma tweeter projects if you're interested.
And while on the topic, look up field coil speakers. They have a cone and a voicecoil like a conventional speaker, but use an electromagnet instead of a permanent magnet. You'll find them manufactured by Supravox, Fertin and a couple of boutique manufacturers.
post #3 of 7
10/17/10 at 10:27pm
- Anaxilus
- Trader Feedback: +26
-
- offline
- 11,215 Posts. Joined 3/2010
- Location: Orange County, CA
- Select All Posts By This User
Oh I heard about the mysterious plasma tweeters about 5 years ago. Couldn't scrounge much up about them though at the time. DIY plasma you say? Do tell....
post #4 of 7
10/18/10 at 1:41pm
- Jon L
- Trader Feedback: 0
- For him, f/1.2 is a prime number
-
- offline
- 3,590 Posts. Joined 5/2003
- Location: So Cal
- Select All Posts By This User
I tend to think of electrostat, ribbon, and dynamic drivers in terms of "density" of sound and "speed." (also microdynamics, "life")
Density:
dynamic>ribbon>'stat
Speed:
'Stat>ribbon>dynamic
I find that electrostat headphones have much better chance of preserving the speed (also microdynamics) while sacrificing less in tonal density and impact relative to electrostat speakers.
post #5 of 7
10/18/10 at 2:35pm
- Uncle Erik
- Trader Feedback: 0
- Uncle Exotic
-
- offline
- 22,850 Posts. Joined 3/2006
- Location: The Low Desert
- Select All Posts By This User
Here's the DIY plasma tweeter: http://www.plasmatweeter.de/eng_plasma.htm
post #6 of 7
11/17/10 at 9:00pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Erik 

Here's the DIY plasma tweeter: http://www.plasmatweeter.de/eng_plasma.htm
Thanks for your answer! It is good for reference, It helps me out of the problem.
post #7 of 7
11/17/10 at 10:23pm
- Anaxilus
- Trader Feedback: +26
-
- offline
- 11,215 Posts. Joined 3/2010
- Location: Orange County, CA
- Select All Posts By This User
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Erik 
Here's the DIY plasma tweeter: http://www.plasmatweeter.de/eng_plasma.htm

Here's the DIY plasma tweeter: http://www.plasmatweeter.de/eng_plasma.htm
Thx Erik!
Return Home
- Difference between "electrostatic" and "ribbon"?
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum) › Difference between "electrostatic" and "ribbon"?
Currently, there are 2385 Active Users
(542 Members and 1843 Guests)
Recent Discussions
- › bad trader!! crap, i need help!!! 4 seconds ago
- › Questions from a Newbie 58 seconds ago
- › Some LME49600 implementations 1 minute ago
- › InEarZ (Fisher Hearing) Custom Remold Owner's Thread 1 minute ago
- › Sennheiser HD 700: Officially Unveiled at CES 2012! 2 minutes ago
- › V-MODA M-100: Discussion/Feedback, Reviews, Pics, etc. 3 minutes ago
- › Beyerdynamic DT880 Edition 250ohm 3 minutes ago
- › New AKG K495 and K490 Noise Cancelling Cans 4 minutes ago
- › Looking for audiophile PC speakers on a budget 6 minutes ago
- › O2 amp for sale in Blue case 6 minutes ago
View: New Posts | All Discussions
Recent Reviews
- › TEAC PD-H600 Reference 600 Series CD Player by gonkulator
- › AKG K403 by eskimoo
- › Sennheiser HD-598 by TK277
- › Ultrasone Signature Pro Headphones by baglunch
- › JVC HA-S600 by pootispow
- › Audez'e LCD-2 Planar Magnetic Headphones by Squuiid
- › Superlux HD-668 B by BlackTea
- › Cowon C2-16BS 16 GB Video Player, Black with Silver by burninmind
- › BRAINWAVZ HM5 Studio Monitor Headphones by Night Crawler
- › Shure SE535LTD RED by sue4
View: More Reviews
New Articles
- › iBasso DX100 FAQ by DoctorHeadz
- › DIY Cable Info and Resources by Pingupenguins
- › Asr Head-Fi Threads Compendium by Asr
- › Headphone Buying Guide by keanex
- › Fostex T50RP modification summary LINKS - wiki by jgray91
- › Comparisons of the LCD-3 and the LCD-2 Rev. 2 by MacedonianHero
- › Posting Guidelines by Currawong
- › Comparisons of LCD-2 Rev. 1 and Rev. 2 by MacedonianHero
- › Membership Levels, Badges and Custom Titles by Currawong
- › Sennheiser Hd4 8 Modding For Newbies by koolkat
View: New Articles | All Articles
Home | Head Gear | Forums | Articles | My Profile
About Head-Fi.org | Join the Community | Advertise
© 2012 Head-Fi.org is powered by Huddler Tech | FAQ | Support | Privacy/TOS | Site Map
About Head-Fi.org | Join the Community | Advertise
© 2012 Head-Fi.org is powered by Huddler Tech | FAQ | Support | Privacy/TOS | Site Map






