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post #46 of 60

Did anyone get a chance to listen to the Emotiva XDA-1 DAC? I know it was in Emotiva's speaker rig so probably no chance to listen with head gear. I'm interested as it's a possible DACMagic (which I own) killer.

post #47 of 60

The DAC will be out soon enough and then I'm sure we'll hear from reviewers and owners. No way anyone can provide impressions of a source component in a show environment.

post #48 of 60
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HELP!  Lost cable.

 

If anyone found an HD800 cable made by Warren Audio mixed in with their stuff and wondered where it came from, I am missing one.  The cable is 3m long, has a 4-pin XLR plug, has Red heat shrink on the right ear-cup's wire and Black on the left one, with super nylon sleeving.  This is the older Double Helix model, not the new X10 that I had on the headphones during RMAF.

 

THERE IS A REWARD FOR THE RETURN, and if I get this particular cable back I'll donate to you a very similar cable which has all black heat shrink and a much longer y-split.  My OCD is driving me nuts with the longer y-split and no red heat shrink, and I'll pay all shipping costs for you to return the cable and send you the other one for free.  If you don't want the free cable, I could offer something else for your trouble.

 

Please PM me and we'll work something out.

post #49 of 60
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Did anyone get a chance to listen to the Emotiva XDA-1 DAC? I know it was in Emotiva's speaker rig so probably no chance to listen with head gear. I'm interested as it's a possible DACMagic (which I own) killer.


At Saturday evening's "The Absolute Sound" recap event by their editors, one of the editors specifically commented about the potential of this new DAC.  I don't recall the specifics from their room.  The price point I think was mentioned.  I can't recall if they said it was going to be under $300 or $400 but it would most likely set the dollar value price point with the DAC.

post #50 of 60

Supposed to be $300 according to Emotiva's site.

post #51 of 60
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

HELP!  Lost cable.

 

If anyone found an HD800 cable made by Warren Audio mixed in with their stuff and wondered where it came from, I am missing one.  The cable is 3m long, has a 4-pin XLR plug, has Red heat shrink on the right ear-cup's wire and Black on the left one, with super nylon sleeving.  This is the older Double Helix model, not the new X10 that I had on the headphones during RMAF.

 

THERE IS A REWARD FOR THE RETURN, and if I get this particular cable back I'll donate to you a very similar cable which has all black heat shrink and a much longer y-split.  My OCD is driving me nuts with the longer y-split and no red heat shrink, and I'll pay all shipping costs for you to return the cable and send you the other one for free.  If you don't want the free cable, I could offer something else for your trouble.

 

Please PM me and we'll work something out.


Nobody?

post #52 of 60

Audio-Technica ATH-M50 (source: Arcam rDac | amp: Schiit Asgard): I've been wanting to try out the M50 based on everything I've read about them on Head-Fi, but have never bothered to actually buy them for one reason or another. So when HeadRoom showed up at RMAF with one, I had to try it of course, in my computer setup where I was able to quickly run through a variety of music that I'm familiar with. I ended up thinking that the M50 was pretty good but I wasn't sure if it was good enough for me to buy one. The music I used was primarily from The Crystal Method, Nightwish, Symphony X, Alison Krauss & Union Station, and Zero 7, and the M50 did an acceptable job with each one - clear, relatively fast bass, fairly clean treble, and properly "assertive" on metal (I wouldn't call it aggressive per se). I also felt that it might be a bit bass-light compared to the AT AD2000 (but I didn't do a direct comparison, just guessing). But the primary reason I wasn't sure of the M50 was because I didn't get to try it for anything related to PC gaming (specifically FPS games) because that's how I use my ES7 and if I got the M50, that'd be the only thing that I'd use it for - not for music listening. The comfort of the M50 wasn't bad either, at least for my head.

Beyerdynamic T5p (source: Arcam rDac | amp: Schiit Asgard): Some folks in the Head-Fi room were practically raving about this headphone so I pawned them off from Moon Audio to try in my computer setup. I ended up both underwhelmed and disappointed. The first thing I noticed was a slight hollowness to the mid-range, and the upper treble wasn't very clear either, there was too much blurring. The headphones also enhanced bronzy/nasal qualities in the sound, and the bass was neither very deep or solid. The soundstage also seemed off and made everything sound too distant, which didn't work for metal music.

Schiit Audio Valhalla (source: Rotel RCD-1072): There was only one thing I wanted to find out about the Valhalla, and that was how well it worked for the Beyer T1 that I own. It was a solid amp as far as I could tell in the show environment from limited informal listening. It certainly had more than enough volume, not that volume has anything to do with how well it drove the T1 electrically though. It didn't seem to slow down the impulse response (I've heard some amps that do slow down impulse response for whatever reason). I wasn't really sure how much low bass it was able to push through though, because I got an impression that there was some low bass missing from the T1 compared to my usage of it in my home setup (Plinius CD-101 w/ Rockhopper M3). But for only $349 from an American company plus the 14-day return policy, I think the Valhalla is a no-brainer! Who cares how it sounds?

Tyler Audio D2 speakers (source: Plinius CD-101 | amps: Plinius Tautoro & SA-103): The only reason I bothered to sit down in this room and listen was because of the CD player - I also own one, so why not, right? I know how it sounds which removes that variable from my listening impressions. wink.gif I was told the Plinius equipment was actually from Silver Circle Audio's personal system, which I thought was interesting. The speakers underwhelmed though - the D2 didn't deliver what I was expecting. They had a bronzy/nasal quality, a semi-hollow mid-range, and the treble had none of the clarity or speed that I know the CD-101 is capable of. Too bad.

Aperion Audio Verus Grand Tower (electronics unknown): I played Massive Attack's "Inertia Creeps" on these and these speakers did a good job - good deep bass, solid and assertive overall. They also whacked the belly drums nicely - not exactly something that every transducer is capable of, as I've found out. For the price ($899), I think they're probably a safe choice for an all-round floorstander under $1K.

 

YG Acoustics Carmel (source: PS Audio PWT/PWD | amps: Veloce pre-amp & monoblocks): I used only one of my reference CDs in this system, Julia Fischer's Bach Concertos, and it did not sound good. The orchestra sounded small instead of big which negatively affected the violin sections the most, soundstage just seemed off with odd positioning of the instrument sections, there was a loss in dynamics (loud/soft contrasts), and there was an unpleasant forwardness in the bronzy part of the frequency response. The rep running the room negatively commented on the quality of the CD recording but what I was really thinking to myself was that he was full of BS commenting on a CD he probably hadn't heard before, because this CD sounds awesome on my setup at home when I play it on the Stax OII MKI & HeadAmp BHSE. It sounded a lot less awesome in this system on the Carmel.

 

Quad 22L2 (Quad Elite CDP & Stereo int amp): If there's one particular type of speakers that I'm most interested in, it's compact floorstanders, and the Quad 22L2 has been on my radar of speakers to check out for a while. I played only two different CD tracks, In Flames' "Artifacts of the Black Rain" and Alison Krauss' "A Living Prayer". Recording quality aside, the In Flames did not go well on the 22L2 - it simply lacked assertion, let alone aggression. Or in other words, it sounded boring and bland. "A Living Prayer," on the other hand, sounded really good with room-filling vocals and a wide soundstage. So I guess metal probably isn't ideal for the 22L2.

 

On a final note, I saw from Positive Feedback's press coverage that there was also a room with Marantz electronics with the Monitor Audio PL200 floorstanders. AW CRAP!!!! If there's one speaker I'd have loved to hear more than any other at RMAF, it would've been those - and I totally missed seeing them! I am totally kicking myself now and wish I had a time machine so I can go back and listen to them. tongue.gif


I listened to more gear than what I've written down here but because of limited notes & documentation, I won't bother posting anything about them. The gear impressions provided above are all that I can offer.


Edited by Asr - 10/31/10 at 11:16pm
post #53 of 60

Thanks for the impressions ASR. Did any of you guys get to listen the Audioengine A2?

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Thanks for the impressions ASR. Did any of you guys get to listen the Audioengine A2?


I've owned the A2 for several months, and with the Audioengine stands they sound pretty good.  Without the stands the bass is boomy from reflections off the desk. For the size and price I can't think of anything better to get than the A2, but you must use them with stands.

 

But I went to the Audioengine room at RMAF to check their room out anyway, and I ended buying their A5 demos at a great price.  I thought they sound a bit better than the A2.  The A5 sound more extended in the lows and highs, and more powerful as well.  I'm not getting any of that "bass boost off the desk" effect with the A5 and no stands, and they sound less colored and balanced.

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I've owned the A2 for several months, and with the Audioengine stands they sound pretty good.  Without the stands the bass is boomy from reflections off the desk. For the size and price I can't think of anything better to get than the A2, but you must use them with stands.

 

But I went to the Audioengine room at RMAF to check their room out anyway, and I ended buying their A5 demos at a great price.  I thought they sound a bit better than the A2.  The A5 sound more extended in the lows and highs, and more powerful as well.  I'm not getting any of that "bass boost off the desk" effect with the A5 and no stands, and they sound less colored and balanced.


Thanks for your impressions Larry, very helpful. Congrats on the bargain. The A5 will be too big and more costly for my needs, also, the A2 has RCA imputs (crazy choice from audioengine, but great), which I prefer. As for stands I was thinking of using these <http://www.ikea.com/au/en/catalog/products/37067100> upside down, do you think they will cancel the bass deformation from the desk you mentioned?

 

Edit: Also, is it better to put them at ear level?


Edited by JIGF - 11/2/10 at 2:04am
post #56 of 60
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Thanks for your impressions Larry, very helpful. Congrats on the bargain. The A5 will be too big and more costly for my needs, also, the A2 has RCA imputs (crazy choice from audioengine, but great), which I prefer. As for stands I was thinking of using these <http://www.ikea.com/au/en/catalog/products/37067100> upside down, do you think they will cancel the bass deformation from the desk you mentioned?

 

Edit: Also, is it better to put them at ear level?


I have them at chest level, but with the angled AE stands they point right at my ear height.  The plastic AE stands might dampen resonances and vibrations better than a tipped over glass vase, which I haven't tried.

post #57 of 60
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I have them at chest level, but with the angled AE stands they point right at my ear height.  The plastic AE stands might dampen resonances and vibrations better than a tipped over glass vase, which I haven't tried.

 

I did think of glass being reflective, but it will be minimal compared to the messed acoustics I get from a room with a desk. Thanks for the help Larry.

post #58 of 60

On the A2, I've been getting great results but paired with a subwoofer with a crossover at ~50hz. I also put little felt footies (the kind you stick on furniture to keep it scratching the floor) to dampen some of the reverb off my desk. I keep them at ear level (I built a hutch on my desk), toed inward slightly, and the sound is great. I love those little things!

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I did think of glass being reflective, but it will be minimal compared to the messed acoustics I get from a room with a desk. Thanks for the help Larry.


I didn't say reflective - I was more concerned about resonances in the glass vase itself, meaning the A2 causing it to vibrate and make sound of it's own.

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I didn't say reflective - I was more concerned about resonances in the glass vase itself, meaning the A2 causing it to vibrate and make sound of it's own.

 

That makes sense. Lets see how it works when I get them.

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