Originally Posted by les_garten
Sounds like recent times have brought some challenges to A-GD.
Their gear is always worth the wait. I was in on the original Compass design thread and it took 5-6 months for the Final Version to arrive.
It was worth the wait.
I was one of the first 3 REF 1's. That took a number of months wait.
Phoenix, the same.
Their gear is worthwhile regards the wait.
One thing is for sure though, they have never stole any money from anyone. So there is nothing to worry about, I don't get that.
Some things are the way they are.
Patience is a virtue.
Yes most of us know what audio gd was like, and I can understand why you seem to want to defend them. And yes we also understand that they have not "stole any money" but had they "stole any money" I don't think you would be defending audio gd nor would we be worried about getting are gears because we would not have ordered from them.
Audio GD is a small China start-up company in disarray and probably under capitalized, that has simply over extended them self. I am glad you can be so caviler about waiting 5/6 months, but understand the folks that have orders now with AGD that live in country's like the USA have no recourse other than paypal and paypals 45 day window to recoup there money if something does go wrong with AGD.
As far as the deliver times go and the blame for that, just go over to the HE6 thread and read if they are having the same problems as AGD has and from what you say has always had. The reason why I use Hifiman as an example is they are in the same province as ADG, also they have about the same size product line as ADG had plus the fact that Hifiman is also a newer China start-up company. If you do read that thread you will see they have had a few problems however they have rectified any problem in a very timely manner. As where ADG has given me the impression that I will get my order when I get it, so don't bother us because we are not going to help you.
Please understand that my shipping date has changed several times and now I do have a shipping number that is bogus that AGD said they would get back to me in two days with the correct shipping number. Only one problem it has been a full 4 days now and ADG will not even return my E-Mails asking where my order is and what the shipping number is.
So to answerer your comment about why you don't understand why some of us are worried, the answerer is simple ADG has brought on these problems not there customers.