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post #76 of 93
they sound like crap 10 dollar headphones, look like playskool designed them, cost far much more than what they are actually worth, have horrible build quality, have a lying marketing team, like actual blatant lies. They give the headphone industry a bad name, and a bad model. ( cheap materials, no acoustic research, overpriced, and badly made in china with no quality control)
post #77 of 93
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Originally Posted by droido256 View Post

they sound like crap 10 dollar headphones, look like playskool designed them, cost far much more than what they are actually worth, have horrible build quality, have a lying marketing team, like actual blatant lies. They give the headphone industry a bad name, and a bad model. ( cheap materials, no acoustic research, overpriced, and badly made in china with no quality control)

I have tried audophile headphones (m80, m100, cal, momentum, ath m50) and I still prefer my original studios. None of those have even remotely close bass quantity except for the m100 but it doesn't look that good. I legit prefer my studios and if they broke I would buy them (the 2013 version now obv) over the others. Everyone always says the bass overshadows everything but I can hear everything perfectly fine. I'm beginning to think no audiophile listens to rap/dubstep.


Edited by lilboozy - 1/5/14 at 12:31pm
post #78 of 93
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Originally Posted by lilboozy View Post
 

I have tried audophile headphones (m80, m100, cal, momentum, ath m50) and I still prefer my original studios. None of those have even remotely close bass quantity except for the m100 but it doesn't look that good. I legit prefer my studios and if they broke I would buy them (the 2013 version now obv) over the others. Everyone always says the bass overshadows everything but I can hear everything perfectly fine. I'm beginning to think no audiophile listens to rap/dubstep.

Honestly, you are somewhat correct. In the end, it's all about the sound signature. Alot of audiophile headphones are relatively neutral which will lead to a boring sound with most modern genres such as the ones you have listed. However for more acoustical instrument based music like jazz, rock, classical, etc... the audiophile headphones will shine. Truth is, the average joe on the street find those genre of music boring and therefore the headphones that play well with them will be boring as well.

post #79 of 93
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Originally Posted by SonusAudio View Post
 

Honestly, you are somewhat correct. In the end, it's all about the sound signature. Alot of audiophile headphones are relatively neutral which will lead to a boring sound with most modern genres such as the ones you have listed. However for more acoustical instrument based music like jazz, rock, classical, etc... the audiophile headphones will shine. Truth is, the average joe on the street find those genre of music boring and therefore the headphones that play well with them will be boring as well.

Yeah, you're right. For acoustic genres I can imagine how these would suck.

post #80 of 93
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Originally Posted by lilboozy View Post

I have tried audophile headphones (m80, m100, cal, momentum, ath m50) and I still prefer my original studios. None of those have even remotely close bass quantity except for the m100 but it doesn't look that good. I legit prefer my studios and if they broke I would buy them (the 2013 version now obv) over the others. Everyone always says the bass overshadows everything but I can hear everything perfectly fine. I'm beginning to think no audiophile listens to rap/dubstep.

I listen to rap, not dubstep *shudders* even for that the beats are not good, because it isn't even good bass, not even close. Even skullcandies (rarely) have a better handle than beats.
post #81 of 93
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Originally Posted by lilboozy View Post
 

I have tried audophile headphones (m80, m100, cal, momentum, ath m50) and I still prefer my original studios. None of those have even remotely close bass quantity except for the m100 but it doesn't look that good. I legit prefer my studios and if they broke I would buy them (the 2013 version now obv) over the others. Everyone always says the bass overshadows everything but I can hear everything perfectly fine. I'm beginning to think no audiophile listens to rap/dubstep.

 

if you are talking about bass quantity, then yes... beats studio has tons of them. But more towards quantity, not quality if you ask me. The bass extension goes waaaayy low, however at mid way it gets all bloated and loose which breaks out into a diarrhoea frenzy.

well some may like the extension as you can really feel the bass rattling through your bones and the heart pumping feeling induced involuntarily lol.

 

i found the mids surprisingly okay as i was expecting it to be recessed/drowned out by the bass. Definitely not audiophile grade mids, nor $300-400 worth.. but it is there for you to distinguish some details, imaging and separation for other instruments/vocals.

 

treble is very recessed and there's no sparkle or energy in there.

Overall this makes Beats a very genre specific type of headphones which focus more on EDM/dubstep type, while basically sucking in most other genres.

 

I wouldn't rate Beats at $10... but a more reasonable pricing would be $100-150. (Note my impression is on the pre-2013 models)

post #82 of 93
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post
 

 The bass extension goes waaaayy low, however at mid way it gets all bloated and loose which breaks out into a diarrhoea frenzy.

Well I guess I like that (so do millions of others just look at the sales). No audiophile headphone even compares.

post #83 of 93
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Originally Posted by lilboozy View Post

Well I guess I like that (so do millions of others just look at the sales). No audiophile headphone even compares.

I think most of the millions just like the branding and design. They probably haven't listened to real good quality (even bass region) sounding headphones, and I don't blame them since there are too many options out there and are not as well marketed as Beats.
Once they get accustomed to what they perceive as real good quality bass from Beats marketing, they might find other bassy headphones pale in comparison since their standard for good quality bass = Beats.
post #84 of 93
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post


I think most of the millions just like the branding and design. They probably haven't listened to real good quality (even bass region) sounding headphones, and I don't blame them since there are too many options out there and are not as well marketed as Beats.
Once they get accustomed to what they perceive as real good quality bass from Beats marketing, they might find other bassy headphones pale in comparison since their standard for good quality bass = Beats.

Always wonder about these types of discussions...seems like they just go round and round.  

 

In the end, the market determines what is successful or isn't and there is always room for a 'good' product that appeals to a defined market segment.

 

Take autos, if the 'best' product always prevailed, then you'd only need one vehicle at the $40K pricepoint.  Instead, we have these and too many others to mention.  

 

Subaru WRX XTI - $38,640

Chrysler 300c - $39,415

Loaded Chevy Volt - $39,201

BMW 328ix - $39,300

Buick LaCrosse - $39,255

Ford F150 SuperCrew 4x4 - $39,730

 

Which is better?  Depends on what you're looking for!

 

I'll say this, I'm not enjoying the Black Eyed Peas on my Etys as much as I do on my Atrios!  My $.02

post #85 of 93
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Originally Posted by GearMe View Post

Always wonder about these types of discussions...seems like they just go round and round.  

In the end, the market determines what is successful or isn't and there is always room for a 'good' product that appeals to a defined market segment.

Take autos, if the 'best' product always prevailed, then you'd only need one vehicle at the $40K pricepoint.  Instead, we have these and too many others to mention.  

Subaru WRX XTI - $38,640
Chrysler 300c - $39,415
Loaded Chevy Volt - $39,201
BMW 328ix - $39,300
Buick LaCrosse - $39,255
Ford F150 SuperCrew 4x4 - $39,730

Which is better?  Depends on what you're looking for!

I'll say this, I'm not enjoying the Black Eyed Peas on my Etys as much as I do on my Atrios!  My $.02

Lol comparison to cars is a very large jump...
I'm not going to the extent to say beats are trash or not even worth $10, but if you are looking for bass quantity with the lowest extension then Beats is your best bet. And they are a very specific genre type of phones.
post #86 of 93
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post


Lol comparison to cars is a very large jump...
I'm not going to the extent to say beats are trash or not even worth $10, but if you are looking for bass quantity with the lowest extension then Beats is your best bet. And they are a very specific genre type of phones.

 

FYI...the response wasn't necessarily to your post but to the general idea of these types of discussions.

 

However, the analogy holds across any type of product (cars, headphones, etc.) that can have significant differentiators (performance, quality, style, etc.) that define a brand and their offerings. Just as the Volt appeals to certain buyers, the F-150 does to others, as does the WRX.

 

The point is I rarely see car owners having ongoing dialogues where one person tries to convince another that their car purchase is totally wrong and that they should 'see the light' and buy a car just like theirs, or more accurately stated, to buy any car but the 'crappy' one they own!

 

Different market segments look for different things in headphones and their buying criteria may not be the same as mine, yours, or the most revered audiophile critic.  As far as I'm concerned, if someone enjoys the music experience more with Beats, that's fine by me!  

 

For my tastes...Beats don't provide me with the best 'Basshead' experience when I'm in that listening mood; hence my Atrios and probably some Q40s in the near future.

 

That said, I just don't get the bashing that takes place on this forum.  I don't feel the need to 'convert' any Beats user.  

post #87 of 93
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Originally Posted by GearMe View Post
 

 

FYI...the response wasn't necessarily to your post but to the general idea of these types of discussions.

 

However, the analogy holds across any type of product (cars, headphones, etc.) that can have significant differentiators (performance, quality, style, etc.) that define a brand and their offerings. Just as the Volt appeals to certain buyers, the F-150 does to others, as does the WRX.

 

The point is I rarely see car owners having ongoing dialogues where one person tries to convince another that their car purchase is totally wrong and that they should 'see the light' and buy a car just like theirs, or more accurately stated, to buy any car but the 'crappy' one they own!

 

Different market segments look for different things in headphones and their buying criteria may not be the same as mine, yours, or the most revered audiophile critic.  As far as I'm concerned, if someone enjoys the music experience more with Beats, that's fine by me!  

 

For my tastes...Beats don't provide me with the best 'Basshead' experience when I'm in that listening mood; hence my Atrios and probably some Q40s in the near future.

 

That said, I just don't get the bashing that takes place on this forum.  I don't feel the need to 'convert' any Beats user.  

 

Well live with it. No matter what products on any forums, there will always be bashing or people trying to convert others to try other products. Shouldn't be surprising since it is partly human nature for some. There is nothing to get, it is a simple understanding that some people think differently from others.

post #88 of 93
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post
 

 

Well live with it. No matter what products on any forums, there will always be bashing or people trying to convert others to try other products. Shouldn't be surprising since it is partly human nature for some. There is nothing to get, it is a simple understanding that some people think differently from others.

Well, obviously I do live with it -- since I'm on this forum, duh!  Also, I get that its part of human nature (just comical that's all).  Have no issues with people thinking differently than me and am totally at ease with someone spending their dollars the way they see fit.  Again if they're enjoying their music, more power to them.

 

To my view, people making themselves feel better by BEATing someone else down have the issues -- not someone that buys the 'wrong set of headphones'. 

 

BTW...it's ironic that Droido256's post (76) "they sound like crap 10 dollar headphones, look like playskool designed them..." 

 

followed MacedonianHero's post (75) "Overall they are pretty darn good headphones.  FWIW, I hated the original Studios, so its nice to see Beats take good sound seriously."  

 

Apparently he liked them enough that he owns them...along with his SR-009 & 007s, HD800s, TH900s, LCD Xs, P7s, DNAs, and Skullcandy Aviators.   Sounds like I need to give Beats Studios (and Skullcandy Aviators) another look.   

 

Let the BEATdown begin!    ;-)

 


Edited by GearMe - 1/8/14 at 11:07am
post #89 of 93
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Originally Posted by GearMe View Post

Well, obviously I do live with it -- since I'm on this forum, duh!  Also, I get that its part of human nature (just comical that's all).  Have no issues with people thinking differently than me and am totally at ease with someone spending their dollars the way they see fit.  Again if they're enjoying their music, more power to them.

To my view, people making themselves feel better by BEATing someone else down have the issues -- not someone that buys the 'wrong set of headphones'. 

BTW...it's ironic that Droido256's post (76) "they sound like crap 10 dollar headphones, look like playskool designed them..." 

followed MacedonianHero's post (75) "Overall they are pretty darn good headphones.  FWIW, I hated the original Studios, so its nice to see Beats take good sound seriously."  

Apparently he liked them enough that he owns them...along with his SR-009 & 007s, HD800s, TH900s, LCD Xs, P7s, DNAs, and Skullcandy Aviators.   Sounds like I need to give Beats Studios (and Skullcandy Aviators) another look.   

Let the BEATdown begin!    ;-)
 

Lol well I heard they improved the studio's 2013 version and some said it's quite decent now.
post #90 of 93
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Originally Posted by GearMe View Post
 

Well, obviously I do live with it -- since I'm on this forum, duh!  Also, I get that its part of human nature (just comical that's all).  Have no issues with people thinking differently than me and am totally at ease with someone spending their dollars the way they see fit.  Again if they're enjoying their music, more power to them.

 

To my view, people making themselves feel better by BEATing someone else down have the issues -- not someone that buys the 'wrong set of headphones'. 

 

BTW...it's ironic that Droido256's post (76) "they sound like crap 10 dollar headphones, look like playskool designed them..." 

 

followed MacedonianHero's post (75) "Overall they are pretty darn good headphones.  FWIW, I hated the original Studios, so its nice to see Beats take good sound seriously."  

 

Apparently he liked them enough that he owns them...along with his SR-009 & 007s, HD800s, TH900s, LCD Xs, P7s, DNAs, and Skullcandy Aviators.   Sounds like I need to give Beats Studios (and Skullcandy Aviators) another look.   

 

Let the BEATdown begin!    ;-)

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post


Lol well I heard they improved the studio's 2013 version and some said it's quite decent now.

 

Exactly. The original Beats were very bad. The new 2013s took a step in the right direction and for what they are, they ain't bad.

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