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post #166 of 233

One definite example. When my listen to Jumper (live rmx)- capsule using my RE-Zero and Droid, after 10 seconds, I turn it off because of piercing treble. When I use my 602, I listen to it over and over, and without any fatigue.Other musics--not that much difference but the 602 is definitely more pleasurable. 

post #167 of 233

A few months ago dfkt offered to lend me his HM-801 review sample and I declined because I had no interest in lugging a brick around. The HM-602/601 appears to be a bit closer to what I personally consider suitable for mobile listening, if still not quite there. Yet with all the controversy going on about those HiFiMAN DAPs, I wished I'd taken the opportunity to hear one myself.
 

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One definite example. When my listen to Jumper (live rmx)- capsule using my RE-Zero and Droid, after 10 seconds, I turn it off because of piercing treble. When I use my 602, I listen to it over and over, and without any fatigue.Other musics--not that much difference but the 602 is definitely more pleasurable. 


This basically means, pairing some too bright audiophile IEMs with some treble rolled off audiophile DAP amounts to audiophile heaven. Sorry, couldn't resist. wink.gif

post #168 of 233
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This basically means, pairing some too bright audiophile IEMs with some treble rolled off audiophile DAP amounts to audiophile heaven. Sorry, couldn't resist. wink.gif


From a synergy POV, it is the equivalence of feeding Grado with a warm and smooth tube amp, so why not? Growingtube.gifL3000.gif

post #169 of 233
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A few months ago dfkt offered to lend me his HM-801 review sample and I declined because I had no interest in lugging a brick around. The HM-602/601 appears to be a bit closer to what I personally consider suitable for mobile listening, if still not quite there. Yet with all the controversy going on about those HiFiMAN DAPs, I wished I'd taken the opportunity to hear one myself.
 

The HifiMan players have had this controversy going on for a while hasn't it? I'll get to hear for myself next week probably when mine comes in the mail. It should be an easy sell if it doesn't turn out to be as good as I think it should be.

post #170 of 233
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A few months ago dfkt offered to lend me his HM-801 review sample and I declined because I had no interest in lugging a brick around. The HM-602/601 appears to be a bit closer to what I personally consider suitable for mobile listening, if still not quite there. Yet with all the controversy going on about those HiFiMAN DAPs, I wished I'd taken the opportunity to hear one myself.
 

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Originally Posted by yooss View Post

One definite example. When my listen to Jumper (live rmx)- capsule using my RE-Zero and Droid, after 10 seconds, I turn it off because of piercing treble. When I use my 602, I listen to it over and over, and without any fatigue.Other musics--not that much difference but the 602 is definitely more pleasurable. 


This basically means, pairing some too bright audiophile IEMs with some treble rolled off audiophile DAP amounts to audiophile heaven. Sorry, couldn't resist. wink.gif


 

RE-Zero is too bright? hmm... can't agree with that. Other phones I currently have is all basshead cans, so synergy wise, not that much. I just hope I will be satisfied with the FA-003.

 

ClieOS, any comments about FA-003 + HM-602? Just curiousrolleyes.gif

post #171 of 233
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ClieOS, any comments about FA-003 + HM-602? Just curiousrolleyes.gif


Pretty good actually. FA-003 pairing with s:flo2 give a more dynamic and exciting sound, but it could be just a little too busy and lose track on micro detail. In comparison, FA-003 is more musical on the HM602 with better presentation on micro detail and soundstage.

post #172 of 233

i wonder how the sm3 will sound with the hm602? i hope i didn't make a mistake on the hm602 

post #173 of 233
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i wonder how the sm3 will sound with the hm602? i hope i didn't make a mistake on the hm602 


I read in one of the threads that someone (who owns both) said the SM3 is not having good synergy with the HM-602.

post #174 of 233

aw oh well i think i'll just have to live with it when it arrives

post #175 of 233
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Originally Posted by daniel050489 View Post

i wonder how the sm3 will sound with the hm602? i hope i didn't make a mistake on the hm602 


I read in one of the threads that someone (who owns both) said the SM3 is not having good synergy with the HM-602.

 

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aw oh well i think i'll just have to live with it when it arrives


Ok even if the synergy isn't the greatest the SM3 will still sound great and you will get the extra resolution and musicality of the 601.  I tried my MD w/ the 602 and it sounded great.  Perhaps not ideal like my DBA + 602 but still great.  It'll only really bither you if you let it linger in your mind and keep thinking about the difference.  Which is kind of what happens to me when I try to listen to 85% of my phones unamped.  

post #176 of 233

so amping it will improve it or not so much? any cheap amps you can suggest? sorry this is my first venture into music world 

post #177 of 233
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so amping it will improve it or not so much? any cheap amps you can suggest? sorry this is my first venture into music world 


For me Amping actually moved the sound to the next level w/ my Headphones by my standards.  Cheap amp with the 60x might not be the best idea.  The cheapest I would consider would be the CMoy BB 2.02, PAV or iBasso T3 but they might actually get in the way of the 60x.  The Arrow, TTVJ slim, Pico slim, Stepdance, iBasso P4 or Toucan would be better bets I think.  If this is your initial venture into audio I would focus on the IEMs / headphones and sources first.  Only once you feel you can get more out of your transducer should you worry about the amp.


Edited by Anaxilus - 12/7/10 at 9:46pm
post #178 of 233

thanks for the info ^^

post #179 of 233

Here is my modest setup, HM-602 > Meier Move > HD650 or RE262.

It seems to meet HM-801 size wise. Will HM-801 alone improve on SQ? 

I am sure that HM-801 > Move will be better, but I do not want bigger setup.

 

HM-602 and Meier Move.jpg

post #180 of 233
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Originally Posted by kostalex View Post

Here is my modest setup, HM-602 > Meier Move > HD650 or RE262.

It seems to meet HM-801 size wise. Will HM-801 alone improve on SQ? 

I am sure that HM-801 > Move will be better, but I do not want bigger setup.

 

 


It all depends on what you consider SQ improvement.  If you'd prefer a more linear SQ with better treble extensions compared to the HM-602, the HM-801 will do that for you.  It can also play 24/96 files without downsampling, so if you plan on using the player as a source in a desktop system, it can do that for you as well better than the 602.  But it will come at the cost of size and battery life, when you're on the go.

 

It all comes down on your preferences. I have not heard the Meier amp you're using, so I can't comment on that.

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