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post #1 of 15
9/25/10 at 7:16am
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Need a suggestion for an audio ripper I can buy that works with Win7, x64.

 

I've downloaded and tried a couple of the freeware programs but they don't play and get along with Win7 x64 very well.

 

I like (EAC) Exact Audio Copy (seems a bit bright) but after a few rips, it starts screwing with Windows 7, x64 and I have to strip it off the system as it starts to lock the system up like a 32-bit program will.  I took time to find an install/setup site link but same story.  Played with it for two days before giving up on EAC.  At least in EAC's defense, with the EAC rips, I can drop the ASUS Xonar STX DSP out of the stream and set the EQ to neutral.

 

I've downloaded foobar2000 and was equally unimpressed as rips by foobar left the file lifeless.  Now I'm wanting to buy something in hopes of better.

 

All I want to do is rip in WAV, and have the program rip and store the file with song id tags intact.  With EAC, after the CD is ripped and stored, I had to go out into cyberspace and download CD album information.  Major pain if you're reripping a whole library.

 

When I use Windows Media Player to rip, it seems to do a simply fly by, pass and rip with no verification and I get a fair amount of bad rips with a lot of information missing; lacks sound stage depth.

 

Suggestions for a simple to use program I can buy (no freeware) that's simple to use?  I only want to rip and store the CD for my personal use and I'd like all the information to be there when I call upon the computer to give it up to the newly order DAC for my listening pleasure.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

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post #2 of 15
9/25/10 at 10:30am

dBpoweramp seem to be highly regarded.

Never used it myself, but may be worth a try.

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post #3 of 15
9/25/10 at 12:41pm

I use dBpoweramp on Win7x64 and it works flawlessly.  I doubt I will ever use anything else.  It will do basic WAV tagging but since WAV files do not have any ID3v2 tag support your mileage will probably be limited no matter what ripper you use when you go to play them back.  foobar will only recognize the Title field, and will not let you add or modify tags.

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post #4 of 15
9/25/10 at 3:22pm
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krmathis wrote:

 

dBpoweramp seem to be highly regarded.

Never used it myself, but may be worth a try.

 

Thanks for the recommendation.  It was a $38.00 USD download.  For the convenience and as easy as it performs, it's an excellent deal.  I was afraid that I was going have to go shopping at the local "geek" super-store, "Frys."  Standing in front of those shelves can be real scary when you haven't a clue.

 

"Hi, are you the on duty geek?"

 

"Yeah, what-cha got?"

 

"CD ripping software."

 

"Yeah, we got lots of that."

 

 

Thanks again for the recommendation.  Made the process very pithy.

 

 

First things first zoso947, welcome to head-fi.org.

 

zoso947 wrote:

 

I use dBpoweramp on Win7x64 and it works flawlessly.  I doubt I will ever use anything else.

 

So far, at first blush, seems to work according to your above, which is what I was wanting; a bit perfect ripper that is simple to use and this software does that.

 

 

It will do basic WAV tagging but since WAV files do not have any ID3v2 tag support your mileage will probably be limited no matter what ripper you use when you go to play them back.

 

Thanks for the insight.  I found that when I used EAC (Exact Audio Copy) when it was working, not freezing up or taking over my operating system, I had to go out and find the ID tag support.  And on the first download with dBpoweramp, I found the same, needing to find ID tag information.  It's no biggie when you're ripping a few CD's for the computer library but when ripping the whole library, having to run out and get ID tags, gets old fast.

 

The dBpoweramp CD Ripper, shows the ID tags, any idea why it won't carry the tags over to the stored location?  Window Media Player has no problem ripping the ID tags, although it does get title stupid on the last song for some reason and I do find need to do a bunch of clean-up editing.

 

???

 

In the end, all the effort is worth it as now I've got fully, clean sound, that I don't need to use the DSP or the EQ to make the music listenable.  I find that when using bit perfect rips, if I use the DSP, my ears fatigue out in a few songs.  This is a good thing.

 

 

"Yeah baby!"


Edited by beeman458 - 9/25/10 at 3:30pm
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post #5 of 15
9/25/10 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by beeman458 View Post


The dBpoweramp CD Ripper, shows the ID tags, any idea why it won't carry the tags over to the stored location?  Window Media Player has no problem ripping the ID tags, although it does get title stupid on the last song for some reason and I do find need to do a bunch of clean-up editing.

 

???

 

In the end, all the effort is worth it as now I've got fully, clean sound, that I don't need to use the DSP or the EQ to make the music listenable.  I find that when using bit perfect rips, if I use the DSP, my ears fatigue out in a few songs.  This is a good thing.

 


Thanks for the welcome.  I have spent much more than $38 on software that wasn't half as useful. I'm not too well-versed in WAV, but iTunes stores the info in it's own database and it sounds like WMP might do the same.  A WAV ripped in iTunes will appear to have all the tags when played in iTunes, but not in any other player.

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post #6 of 15
9/25/10 at 11:43pm
Originally Posted by beeman458 View Post


Thanks for the recommendation.  It was a $38.00 USD download.  For the convenience and as easy as it performs, it's an excellent deal.  I was afraid that I was going have to go shopping at the local "geek" super-store, "Frys."  Standing in front of those shelves can be real scary when you haven't a clue.

 

"Hi, are you the on duty geek?"

 

"Yeah, what-cha got?"

 

"CD ripping software."

 

"Yeah, we got lots of that."

 

 

Thanks again for the recommendation.  Made the process very pithy.


You are most welcome.

 

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post #7 of 15
9/26/10 at 1:50am

I am just beginning to re-rip my entire collection into FLACs. I tried both dBpoweramp CD Ripper and my usual EAC (am using Win XP). I am curious about rip accuracy - dBpoweramp is MUCH faster and the interface is much simplier. I tried to free version. Is it any less secure than EAC if I am using the free version and not the paid version?

 

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post #8 of 15
9/26/10 at 7:56am
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I tried to free version. Is it any less secure than EAC if I am using the free version and not the paid version?

 

Hi Jubei.

 

I can't say about the free version as I jumped right in and bought the full version.  I tried both ways, ripping "Secure" and ripping "Burst."   As you pointed out, ripping "Secure" is painfully slow.  Ripping "Burst" and comparing to the "AccurateRip" database is fast and painless.  A couple of points I came across in my ripping efforts, when doing a lot of rips, the drive heats up, heats the CD up and errors go through the roof.  If you're going do a lot of rips, you need to give the drive a chance to cool down after a few discs, between the next disc and the error messages immediately go back down.  This is a good thing and if the program you're using, doesn't give error messages, it's still advisable to give the drive a rest after a few rips as the heat thing is still causing your rips trouble, even though the program doesn't give error messages.

 

I was pleased with the results of EAC but if you notice when you go to their website, they've not made any changes in a long time.  In my search efforts, I did come across this site which gave excellent setup instructions for EAC.  My opinion, EAC and XP are a good match but not a good match for Win7 x64.

 

A benefit of the dBpoweramp is, you can choose to rip in FLAC and not need to install the FLAC codac, or choose to rip WAV.  Much more convenient should you want to rip FLAC or WAV.

 


Edited by beeman458 - 9/26/10 at 7:58am
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post #9 of 15
9/27/10 at 11:08am
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Originally Posted by Jubei View Post

I am just beginning to re-rip my entire collection into FLACs. I tried both dBpoweramp CD Ripper and my usual EAC (am using Win XP). I am curious about rip accuracy - dBpoweramp is MUCH faster and the interface is much simplier. I tried to free version. Is it any less secure than EAC if I am using the free version and not the paid version?

 


no... the free version secure mode just lacks the ability to use C2 pointers on drives that support it (which can speed up the rip considerably) and also lacks the "ultra secure" mode (which i assume might be some cdparanoia on steroids type setting

 

i think it may also lack damaged by design ripping (it's very rarely needed)

 

one thing i do know is dbpoweramp will rip one disc properly that no version of EAC i've tried can... the "non RE-1" pressing of Slayer - Reign In Blood which has a pressing error that causes some players/software/drives to skip the first second of audio samples: ripped with EAC ripped with dbpoweramp


Edited by necropimp - 9/27/10 at 11:21am
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post #10 of 15
9/27/10 at 1:00pm

Ended up configuring EAC and am now using it simply for peace of mind. Just completed ripping all my Pink Floyd CDs to FLAC :)

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post #11 of 15
9/27/10 at 4:18pm

I'm sure you've had an answer by now, but dbpoweramp works beautifully, couple it with the Apple Lossless plug-in and you have your whole cd library now in iTunes.

 

The bulk converter also works flawlessly, highly recommend it.

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post #12 of 15
9/27/10 at 6:40pm
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Rich77 wrote:

 

I'm sure you've had an answer by now, but dbpoweramp works beautifully

 

Thanks for the thought.  I've had it a couple of days and have ripped about sixty albums.  Yes, you're right, I'm real happy with how dBpoweramp works.  FWIW, I'm a PC kinda guy as opposed to Apple.

 

The bulk converter also works flawlessly, highly recommend it.

 

Not sure I can use the bulk converter as I'm only able to rip a couple of CD's and then I have to let the CD cool down or I start getting a boatload of error messages.  Just for the heck of it though, on your recommendation, I'll check it out and see if there's benefit there for my situation.

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post #13 of 15
9/28/10 at 5:04pm


Yeah I'm on PC too, but I just own an iTouch so I automatically own iTunes (yes I'm aware theres other software like songbird etc)

 

But about your CD problem, that's interesting. Is your compy old? Mine works fine I just throw it in, tell it to go apple lossless and >5 minutes later I have a lossless cd in my library.

The bulk converter is AWESOME tho, especially if you happen to obtain a group of songs from the internet somehow that are in FLAC and you want them on your iPod/device/thing.

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Rich77 wrote:

 

I'm sure you've had an answer by now, but dbpoweramp works beautifully

 

Thanks for the thought.  I've had it a couple of days and have ripped about sixty albums.  Yes, you're right, I'm real happy with how dBpoweramp works.  FWIW, I'm a PC kinda guy as opposed to Apple.

 

The bulk converter also works flawlessly, highly recommend it.

 

Not sure I can use the bulk converter as I'm only able to rip a couple of CD's and then I have to let the CD cool down or I start getting a boatload of error messages.  Just for the heck of it though, on your recommendation, I'll check it out and see if there's benefit there for my situation.

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post #14 of 15
9/28/10 at 5:24pm
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Is your compy old? Mine works fine I just throw it in, tell it to go apple lossless and >5 minutes later I have a lossless cd in my library.

 

Thanks for the thought.  It's a new machine, put together in February this year.  It also has lots of cooling fans but after ripping a few CD's, the next disc put in gets warm fast.  No biggy, when the error messages start popping up, I give the burner a chance to cool off before carrying on.  Finished ripping the library last night.  Hopefully that's the last time as ripping a whole library a couple of times over a couple of weeks, in my book, is no fun.


Edited by beeman458 - 9/28/10 at 5:25pm
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post #15 of 15
9/29/10 at 3:54pm

Haha I can imagine. I'm just happy I found the bulk converter I HATED picking each song out individually so annoying >.>

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