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Abandoning Panasonic HJE900

post #1 of 39
Thread Starter 

premises

source: iphone 4, sansa clip +

no amp

 

facts

after 1 week using the pana hje900 I've understood this IEM are impossible to my ears.

Their harsh/sibilant mid-high are too annoying to me. All the other specs (bass, mid-bass, mid, high, 3d, details) seem to be really excellent.

 

implication

I need an IEM identical to pana hje900 without this issue (=not harsh neither sibilant mid-high)

 

any advise?

I'm taking in consideration RE0. Could it be a real alternative?

 

thanks

post #2 of 39

If you don't care about bass that much then the RE0 will be good for you. however, if you listen to a lot off bass-y stuff then you should look for something else. 

post #3 of 39
Thread Starter 

I really do not understand why it is so difficult to find out a neutral, well balanced IEM with a great 3d, and tons of details.

 

I'll check RE0 and CK10.

 

 

 

post #4 of 39

not identical in sound but very well balanced and very detailed without any harshness , klipsch custom 3 , great bass , i think you would enjoy them 

post #5 of 39

that and SB/M2/M1. Would not recommend the Zeros nor the RE0s which I found a tad fatiguing, plus you'll miss the bass which the previously mentioned have.

 

You could also try putting some foam in the nozzle that should tame the highs pretty well.

post #6 of 39

I'd give the Custom 3 and RE-ZERO a try. 

post #7 of 39


What kind of music do you listen to most often?  It'll make it a lot easier for us to help you decide on a good pair rather than just guessing what we think will suit your needs.
 

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Originally Posted by neeverr View Post

premises

source: iphone 4, sansa clip +

no amp

 

facts

after 1 week using the pana hje900 I've understood this IEM are impossible to my ears.

Their harsh/sibilant mid-high are too annoying to me. All the other specs (bass, mid-bass, mid, high, 3d, details) seem to be really excellent.

 

implication

I need an IEM identical to pana hje900 without this issue (=not harsh neither sibilant mid-high)

 

any advise?

I'm taking in consideration RE0. Could it be a real alternative?

 

thanks

post #8 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by neeverr View Post

premises

source: iphone 4, sansa clip +

no amp

 

facts

after 1 week using the pana hje900 I've understood this IEM are impossible to my ears.

Their harsh/sibilant mid-high are too annoying to me. All the other specs (bass, mid-bass, mid, high, 3d, details) seem to be really excellent.

 

implication

I need an IEM identical to pana hje900 without this issue (=not harsh neither sibilant mid-high)

 

any advise?

I'm taking in consideration RE0. Could it be a real alternative?

 

thanks


Particularly if you don't plan on returning or selling the HJE900s, have you considered some of the anti-harshness remedies out there? Comply tips tame the treble quite a lot(actually so much that they make treble boring for me, but several members like using them). You can gain even more control of that harsh sound by performing the foam mod, which simply involves removing the filters and stuffing the nozzle with light foam like that you might find on cheap earbuds. I think I've heard one member using cotton as well. This allows you to control this harsh spike to your liking, and still protect the drivers.

post #9 of 39

just give up on the panny's...and send them to me

post #10 of 39

I sold these about a week after I got them.  I agree with a lot you said in your post.  Sooo many people recommend these IEMs to others and I just couldn't stand the sound.  They are so overrated for some reason and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. This is, of course, just my opinion which most people will disagree with but oh well.  I'm just telling it like I heard it
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by neeverr View Post

premises

source: iphone 4, sansa clip +

no amp

 

facts

after 1 week using the pana hje900 I've understood this IEM are impossible to my ears.

Their harsh/sibilant mid-high are too annoying to me. All the other specs (bass, mid-bass, mid, high, 3d, details) seem to be really excellent.

 

implication

I need an IEM identical to pana hje900 without this issue (=not harsh neither sibilant mid-high)

 

any advise?

I'm taking in consideration RE0. Could it be a real alternative?

 

thanks

post #11 of 39
Thread Starter 

I listen every kind of music (excluding electronic and hiphop). I would need neutral/balanced IEM with details and 3d stag, that's all :>

 

I would not mod them (eg.: foam, new parts) 'cause it is easier for me to sell them again.

 

My question to people who likes pana hje900: how do are able to listen them without feeling "pain" for every harsh sound / sibilant freqs.

I have not audiophile neither super-sensible ears anyway is quite evident this issue on a lot of track (eg.: take it easy eagles, grace jeff buckley, resistance muse).

 

DBA-02: I only could buy them on treoo (asian shop?), anyway I live in Milan (Italy) and it could be tricky to receive the box (eg.: custom fee, delivery timings...)

ATH-CK100: found them on ebay in Japan... same issue previous line

 

any other name?

 


Edited by neeverr - 9/22/10 at 11:34pm
post #12 of 39
Thread Starter 

and what about the Koss i150? Could it be a possible solution?

post #13 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by neeverr View Post

facts

after 1 week using the pana hje900 I've understood this IEM are impossible to my ears.

Their harsh/sibilant mid-high are too annoying to me. All the other specs (bass, mid-bass, mid, high, 3d, details) seem to be really excellent.


Same here! I'm pretty certain that I'm gonna sell them, the sibilance is unbearable.

I'm gonna try them and burn them in for another week or so to see if that reduces the harsh treble, but if that doesn't work, they'll have to go.

post #14 of 39

If you don't want to modify, put some earbud foam over the nozzle and hold it in place with the tip to see what happens.

post #15 of 39

Just get the RE0s or the Zeros.  I got the RE0s right after I returned the HJE900s.  I'm like you.  I have no idea why people think the HJE900 sound great.  Oh well, ears are different.

 

As for the RE0s (and probably the Zeros) you will miss some bass, but mainly cause they would be perfect with some more bass.  Either live with it, get a amp with a bass boost or EQ it in.


Edited by Max F - 9/23/10 at 10:05am
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