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hey ljokerl - thanks for checking with Woodees. why didn't i think to do that? :)

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For a more balanced-sounding woody there's always the Meelec CW31P, though it's got a different form factor.

 

 

ljokerl, the CW31P looks quite interesting. if you have time, how would you say it compares to the TS02 in sound and comfort? Iis there a $35-40 difference? For the price of the TS02 i could spring for the CC51P, but i'm a bit worried about their weight. (I think the reason the nuforce 7Ms stayed in my ears so much better than the 700xs was that they were much lighter. sounds like the wooden ones would be very light too.)

 

oh one more question - you wrote that the nozzles on the CW31 were oval. will standard tips still fit on them or would i be limited to the ones they come with?

 

thanks - appreciate all your work on this forum!

 

 

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ljokerl, the CW31P looks quite interesting. if you have time, how would you say it compares to the TS02 in sound and comfort? Iis there a $35-40 difference? For the price of the TS02 i could spring for the CC51P, but i'm a bit worried about their weight. (I think the reason the nuforce 7Ms stayed in my ears so much better than the 700xs was that they were much lighter. sounds like the wooden ones would be very light too.)

 

oh one more question - you wrote that the nozzles on the CW31 were oval. will standard tips still fit on them or would i be limited to the ones they come with?


The CW31P is part of Meelec's clarity series; it's much more lean-sounding than the TS02 and a whole lot more balanced. The TS02 is a bass monster in comparison - the CW31 is much closer in balance to the older Thinksound Rain. Comfort-wise the CW31 weighs almost nothing and is very inoffensive as long as your ears don't rebel against earbud-style earphones. I can wear them for hours and can even sleep in them (though they are difficult to wear over-the-ear). The oval nozzles are not a problem in terms of tip choice unless you use non-silicone tips that don't stretch. As far as I can tell, the CW31 comes with the same tips as Meelec's other earphones - they stretch very nicely over the oval nozzle.

 

And yes, the CC51 is a bit on the heavy side and has a wide nozzle (since that's where the driver is located). It is much smaller than the NE-700X, however.

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Thanks, joker!
 

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Great review, ljokerl.  I love reading your reviews, and am learning a lot from them.  I'm thinking of ordering the TS02 for my commute, but am worried about sound leakage from the vent.  I know this is a minimal problem with my ie6s, even though they have a grill, but was wondering whether you noticed any leakage on the model you reviewed?



Leakage is really not a problem with these and almost all other IEMs unless you listen at unreasonable volumes. I would not expect it to be greater than with the IE6. The isolation does suffer very slightly as a result of the vent but it is still more than adequate for day-to-day use.

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Hi Joker,

 

Sorry to revive a long-dead thread, but I figured it would be an appropriate place to ask a question since you've got experience with such a multitude of phones. 

 

I've been looking around between the RE0, TS02, and Shure E215 phones. I posted a thread awhile ago, and got some good responses, but I thought a more detailed comparison from you would be really helpful (if you're willing, of course). I had the Thinksound Rains before and really loved them (I would still use them, but the left driver cut out, :( ), but like anything in technology, I get curious about trying new things.

 

The Shures have a really neat design, and I've heard their tips are nice (I have trouble getting good seals because I have kindof small canals, I guess?), and I'm intrigued by the hyper-analytical reviews the RE0s command. 

 

Anyway, again, thanks for your reviews and time, and thanks if you've got time for this question. 

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Hi Joker,

 

Sorry to revive a long-dead thread, but I figured it would be an appropriate place to ask a question since you've got experience with such a multitude of phones. 

 

I've been looking around between the RE0, TS02, and Shure E215 phones. I posted a thread awhile ago, and got some good responses, but I thought a more detailed comparison from you would be really helpful (if you're willing, of course). I had the Thinksound Rains before and really loved them (I would still use them, but the left driver cut out, :( ), but like anything in technology, I get curious about trying new things.

 

The Shures have a really neat design, and I've heard their tips are nice (I have trouble getting good seals because I have kindof small canals, I guess?), and I'm intrigued by the hyper-analytical reviews the RE0s command. 

 

Anyway, again, thanks for your reviews and time, and thanks if you've got time for this question. 


You might want to actually ask a question...biggrin.gif

 

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It's an implicit question, tongue.gif

 

Explicitly, my question is would you be willing to compare these three IEMs to one another and make a general-purpose recommendation between them?

 

In my other thread, I detailed I listen to a pretty eclectic selection of music, ranging from jazz (all sorts) to classic rock (of the Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Boston, Rush varieties) to classical or symphonic to maybe just a little bit of rap/hip-hop. As for order of importance in regards to fitting a sound signature, I would say Jazz is primary and rap/hip-hop the least important. 

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Hi Joker,

 

Sorry to revive a long-dead thread, but I figured it would be an appropriate place to ask a question since you've got experience with such a multitude of phones. 

 

I've been looking around between the RE0, TS02, and Shure E215 phones. I posted a thread awhile ago, and got some good responses, but I thought a more detailed comparison from you would be really helpful (if you're willing, of course). I had the Thinksound Rains before and really loved them (I would still use them, but the left driver cut out, :( ), but like anything in technology, I get curious about trying new things.

 

The Shures have a really neat design, and I've heard their tips are nice (I have trouble getting good seals because I have kindof small canals, I guess?), and I'm intrigued by the hyper-analytical reviews the RE0s command. 

 

Anyway, again, thanks for your reviews and time, and thanks if you've got time for this question. 


The TS02 is significantly bassier than the Rain; otherwise it's somewhat similar. The SE215 is more balanced than the TS02 but still definitely bass-leaning. Coming from the Thinksound phones you might find it a little dry and maybe a touch light on treble but it should be an upgrade in resolution, clarity, and detail. Probably a worthy trade-off, though you could look at the HiSound Crystal if you are after that type of sound. The HiSounds do it a little better IMO. 

 

The RE0 is very different - it is lighter on bass and heavier on treble than the SE215/Crystal.  I think it's much more transparent, detailed, and refined but you may find yourself missing the bass of the Rains. I would recommend them if you want to try that sound signature but not so much if you just want to get a replacement for your Rains and move on. The Sunrise Xcape IE is a more friendly option with the same impressive level of technical capability but unfortunately it is plagued by build quality issues and therefore worth steering clear of.
 

 

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Thanks for the reply. I haven't made my decision yet, but at least I think I have the information necessary to do so. Seems I'd like either the TS02 or the SE215/Crystals over the RE0. Kinda leaning towards the SE215s just to try something new. 

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Agree, these are good-sounding phones, and their customer service is OUTSTANDING.  But I don't understand why they continue to make their cables so thin and delicate (also tangles easily!).  I understand it's PVC-free so maybe they can't use the same durable ingredients as you would find in even much cheaper phones.  I've read they're supposedly kevlar-reinforced now.  Is that true?  If so, I don't notice any difference. I would imagine kevlar would add some substantial strength, but none appears present.  With IEMs, it's pretty much granted they're not going to be handled as gently as home use cans; they'll be put in and out of pockets, bags, etc, occasionally snagging on sometime, etc.  With these I feel I have to baby them, thus I can't enjoy them as often. 

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Agree, these are good-sounding phones, and their customer service is OUTSTANDING.  But I don't understand why they continue to make their cables so thin and delicate (also tangles easily!).  I understand it's PVC-free so maybe they can't use the same durable ingredients as you would find in even much cheaper phones.  I've read they're supposedly kevlar-reinforced now.  Is that true?  If so, I don't notice any difference. I would imagine kevlar would add some substantial strength, but none appears present.  With IEMs, it's pretty much granted they're not going to be handled as gently as home use cans; they'll be put in and out of pockets, bags, etc, occasionally snagging on sometime, etc.  With these I feel I have to baby them, thus I can't enjoy them as often. 



They are kevlar enforced now.  So while they seem puny, they actually aren't. 

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Agree, these are good-sounding phones, and their customer service is OUTSTANDING.  But I don't understand why they continue to make their cables so thin and delicate (also tangles easily!).  I understand it's PVC-free so maybe they can't use the same durable ingredients as you would find in even much cheaper phones.  I've read they're supposedly kevlar-reinforced now.  Is that true?  If so, I don't notice any difference. I would imagine kevlar would add some substantial strength, but none appears present.  With IEMs, it's pretty much granted they're not going to be handled as gently as home use cans; they'll be put in and out of pockets, bags, etc, occasionally snagging on sometime, etc.  With these I feel I have to baby them, thus I can't enjoy them as often. 



I haven't had any hands-on time with Thinksound's kevlar cord but the other ones I've used (Sennheiser, Etymotic, ACS, etc) have been trouble-free whether they looked it or not.

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