Originally Posted by Daanish
I sometimes get the feeling that Cowon purposely built the flat setting of the J3 to be fairly ordinary so that you would use the extensive eq options, which I do. Once I have it set how I want it, it is hands down the best thing I've ever heard.
Possibly yes - I never thought of it that way. I also agree with it being the best thing ever once you got the EQ down but that can only be said if you have the right pair of decent headphones. What's unavoidable is the cold and absolutely lifeless sound by default.
None of the EQ options correct that no matter what you do. Partially that's the reason why on the Cowon J3, it's pretty much a necessity to EQ to the + side.
Originally Posted by estreeter
The argument against heavy EQ is simple - its great if you only listen to one style of music, or you are simply an all-out basshead (I dont know any all-out trebleheads, but there are plenty of bassheads on Head-Fi). That said, I find the Head-Fi obsession with 'neutrality' to be a bit disingenous : most of us want a little warmth in our music. I doubt that there is a single person working for a mainstream record label who doesnt recognise this, and most pop/rock today refects that. I say 'give the people what they want', and I think Apple have nailed it with the default sound signature on the 6G Nano - purists would disagree, but thats fine with me.
I'm a bit confused on your position. You seem to be on both sides. A few points to make though - the fact that you say one EQ standard is only good done for one style of music isn't true. You're thinking of headphones with a flat EQ response (and you're forgetting preference) where EQ acts only as genre enhancers as many presets indicate. I can only speak for the Cowon J3 but it's purpose is to EQ for headphones to get the right sound. You must of course test with different songs of different artists and different genres, but that's really just because of different mixing and recording techniques used for all different songs/music. The EQ really is generalized to fit all, with the occasional exceptions which always are regardless of EQ. I mean, that's basically like saying that you can't calibrate a TV to one setting because everything looks different. Well.. it's supposed to. You do your best to find the balance. It will still be better regardless than the default if you know what you're doing.
The only point of neutrality is for mixing/recording so that the sound isn't more in one direction than another. Otherwise, it would be unbalanced on devices that emphasize/deemphasize that same area the non-neutral device/phones might've accented. If people have a general craze for flat sound for casual listening (many times forced), they're not using their ears but simple boxed mentality like, "That's the 'correct' way of listening". Stupid really... I love it when a "tech guy" bashes on "audiophiles" and even uses the term as a derogatory. You must be both to be a good techie/Engineer of this profession in the first place. Either side to the extreme is total BS. That's why the Doom9 forums are simply unbearable.
Edited by Typhoon859 - 4/11/11 at 6:39pm