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IMO you aren't really going to get any benefit from amping those headphones. I had both the 555s and the Tripples along with amps and I didn't find them to be very much beneficial; definitely not worth the price I paid for the improvement in sound. I was amping with a LOD from various iPods.
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Originally Posted by Young Spade View Post

AIMO you aren't really going to get any benefit from amping those headphones. I had both the 555s and the Tripples along with amps and I didn't find them to be very much beneficial; definitely not worth the price I paid for the improvement in sound. I was amping with a LOD from various iPods.




My experiance is much different, using my UM3X's, i find the SQ is noticably better when using my miny3. And it is not subtle. The separation and airyness is much better, sound stage seems to open up, and the low end goes from good to very, very good. The highs also seem to extend further and are much more pronounced, or at least separated from the mids better. As good as the HP out is, the amp makes it better. Now my CMoy, that is another story, it does little to no good, in fact i think it hurts the SQ, but keep in mind i am still playing with opamps, so there may be hope for it.
Again i kind of feel like i am hyjacking, cause im listening to a 4G iphone, but this post was more to state that i feel there is good reason to use an amp, even with sensitive IEMs. And i have a feeling that the new touch probably has a similar, if not identicle, chipset as the phone.
Just spent several hours listening through said rig while flying/driving to a jobsite out of state, and man it does sound good to these ears, i still am of the impression that it (with amp) is at least as good as the X. But many more hours will need to be spent compairing before i can say witch i prefer, if any. I do find that the X does not seem to improve as much with an amp, at least i dont notice that much of a change. Im pretty sure this is mainly due to the fact that sony uses a much more purpose built/powerfull chipset, this is with IEMs of course. For full sizex cans the amp helps quite a bit.
post #258 of 265
I also got a ton of improvement when amping my um3xs; It sounded like you were stating that i was wrong however... Just to clarify I wasn't talking about any other IEMs than the two I posted above.
post #259 of 265
Sorry, did not mean to imply thay you were in any way "wrong" that would be silly, just wanted to offer a diferent opinion. I read a lot of posts that claim an amp is not needed or benificial with sensitive IEM's, and while that may be true, it does not mean that there is no benifit to na had.
post #260 of 265
Ah ok, well thanks for clearing that up. smily_headphones1.gif
But yea volume and power are different; going by sensitivity alone isn't the best way to determine whether phones need amping or not.
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Edited by jalyst - 12/7/10 at 8:46pm
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Is there anyone here that can answer my questions:

 

Is an European iPod Touch 4G louder than a 3G? I've read some German test in which they measured over 500mV for the 4G against over 200mV they measured for the 3G. They also claimed that the latest firmware could save the 3G.

 

Is an European iPod Touch 4G louder and better sounding dan the Classic 160GB that was released late 2009? I had that and didn't like it at all, not loud enough on my HD-595, especially with music on normal level (music not suffering from the loudness war).

 

Is an iMac 2009/2010, MacBook Pro 2009/2010, HP Envy or Sony Vaio better sounding than a dedicated MP3 player like the iPods or Cowon S9? I remember my Toshiba L300 laptop had more power than my iPod, but unfortunately it did suffer from little sound drop outs (processor?) and my Asus Eee PC suffers from even more drop outs using the SIM card in my Vodafone USB stick and also lacks power.

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Is there anyone here that can answer my questions:

 

Is an European iPod Touch 4G louder than a 3G? I've read some German test in which they measured over 500mV for the 4G against over 200mV they measured for the 3G. They also claimed that the latest firmware could save the 3G.

 

Is an European iPod Touch 4G louder and better sounding dan the Classic 160GB that was released late 2009? I had that and didn't like it at all, not loud enough on my HD-595, especially with music on normal level (music not suffering from the loudness war).

 

Is an iMac 2009/2010, MacBook Pro 2009/2010, HP Envy or Sony Vaio better sounding than a dedicated MP3 player like the iPods or Cowon S9? I remember my Toshiba L300 laptop had more power than my iPod, but unfortunately it did suffer from little sound drop outs (processor?) and my Asus Eee PC suffers from even more drop outs using the SIM card in my Vodafone USB stick and also lacks power.


If you put an amp to any of those portable players, they'll sound better and/or be louder. Adding a DAC/AMP to any of those computers you mentioned, again will make it sound better. 

 

If all computer info is 0's and 1's, having the same DAC/AMP/Headphones, going out from USB, all those machines should probably sound the same.

post #264 of 265
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
Originally Posted by LevA View Post
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
What about hardware modz to the analogue stage etc, has anyone tried anything as wacky as that.

Surely there's been someone mad enough!?  biggrin.gif

I'm sure someone will if you are willing to offer your touch for modification trial biggrin.gif

as far as I know no hardware modification has been done or at least mentioned on head-fi.

Um, let me think about that... hell no! biggrin.gif  Bummer... Are you 100% sure no-one's tinkered with the analogue-out stage?

It'd be a work of art if anyone's successfully done it, as I imagine the degree of difficulty in such confined spaces would be extremely high!

If anyone has, I wouldn't expect to implement what they've done overnight, but maybe with some gradual/careful study of my master :)

C'mon folks! Anyone?  biggrin.gif   Thank-you.

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Yes an instore demo using stock buds and unknown songs is always a good way measure performance.

 

This seems to be widely available now in Aus but I don't want to buy one unless I can buy a case for it on the same day. Wish they would lose the chrome backing, that scratches if you look at it the wrong way.


+1 I usually like cases by Speck Products for ipods but they don't have one yet for the new touch, so I will wait until they finally do.


Last week I bought a Speck Candyshell case for my wife's 4th generation Touch. It's very nice with a soft, rubbery interior and a hard plastic outer shell. It can be found for about $20 - $25 online. 

 

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