New iPod Touch 4G first impressions - Page 2

i bought the 64gb model, two days ago and it's really nice. the headphone out sounds much better than my classic. HOWEVER!.... for some reason it won't work with my ALO jumbo cryo LOD. has this been a problem with all ipod touch models, or just these new ones?.  

EDIT: nevermind. i just found this thread http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/446731/ipod-touch-line-out-question

Is the volume of the new touch as loud as the classic? I had an issue driving my full sized hp's w/the touch 3G, as the volume was too low. I had to max it out, and it was annoying. So, is it improved in that area (I already expect the SQ to be better)?

Got mine a few days ago. The screen is noticeably better and it seems a little faster - don't see much increase in battery life but my 3G was still pretty new - need to remember if you're comparing a 4G to year old 3G, battery life will have deteriorated a little bit - small but noticeable. I find the audio to be a bit better - seems warmer but not a massive difference - I actually really like the cameras although it's a huge shame and ridiculous that Apple didn't use the same camera as the iPhone but it's obvious why they did it. I'm waiting for a case too, I've always bought the Proporta cases but they're not ready for the 4G yet

Tracker says my iPod left Shanghai.

But I'll be away for vacation when it should arrive.

I have a very small hope that I can use the camera connection kit on this... anyone try it yet?

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Originally Posted by nywytboy68 

Is the volume of the new touch as loud as the classic? I had an issue driving my full sized hp's w/the touch 3G, as the volume was too low. I had to max it out, and it was annoying. So, is it improved in that area (I already expect the SQ to be better)?

Using my HD600 (300ohm) listening to Norah Jones (jazzy ballads), the most I can take for an extended period is about 80%. Using metal or rock my limit is around 70%. These work fine with full size resistive headphones, and sounds pretty darn good, imo. Bass is somewhat lacking, but it takes a ton of power to get HD600 to sound full bodied as it is, so this is not surprising.

Has apple changed the line-out circut? The lineout isnt working on my lineout cable, but it does work on the original ipod dock.

Connecting a mini-mini cable through the headphone out in the dock, i'm able to appreciate the lineout and it sounds a little better then the headphone out, but still lacking a little bit

high compared to my iMod 4g. Bass seems to be a lit bit more compact. Overall, the line-out sonic quality is satisfactory. BUT the fact that being incompatible with ohter line-out cables

makes the line-out function pretty useless.  *Could anyone verify and give some suggestion of solving this problem?*

what kind of LOD do you have??

Loving my new 32gb 4g! does all the same things as my old 2g  but better, and they even made it thinner somehow.

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Originally Posted by Maxvla 

Using my HD600 (300ohm) listening to Norah Jones (jazzy ballads), the most I can take for an extended period is about 80%. Using metal or rock my limit is around 70%. These work fine with full size resistive headphones, and sounds pretty darn good, imo. Bass is somewhat lacking, but it takes a ton of power to get HD600 to sound full bodied as it is, so this is not surprising.

Is it louder than the 3G touch? Is it as loud as, or close to, the volume of the classic?

so has anyone used the 4g's line-out, yet?. 

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Originally Posted by nywytboy68 

Is it louder than the 3G touch? Is it as loud as, or close to, the volume of the classic?

I have not heard those units, sorry.

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Originally Posted by Maxvla 

I have not heard those units, sorry.

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Originally Posted by nywytboy68 

Is it louder than the 3G touch? Is it as loud as, or close to, the volume of the classic?

Thank you just the same. I hope someone here can answer my question tho,..... But on the bright side, I'm not suffering - I'm enjoying my Cowon DAP's ATM.

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Originally Posted by hockey_magnet 
... I actually really like the cameras although it's a huge shame and ridiculous that Apple didn't use the same camera as the iPhone but it's obvious why they did it...

If they had used the same camera they would have needed to make the device a lot thicker, almost as thick as the iPhone, to fit it in. Optics need a certain amount of space and volume.

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Originally Posted by me7 

If they had used the same camera they would have needed to make the device a lot thicker, almost as thick as the iPhone, to fit it in. Optics need a certain amount of space and volume.

No offense but so what? Many people, myself included like the iPhone 4's build. It seems sturdier than the Touch and is not exactly massive compared to other similar devices. I don't think Apple sees this as a size issue. They still want to differentiate the 2 devices by more than just one's a phone the other isn't. Also, a 32 GB unlocked iphone 4 is  $779 versus $319 for the Touch (Canadian) which couldn't be justified for just the phone being included, so while I understand their marketing perfectly well, I'm still disappointed that they chose to downgrade the Touch re camera, processor, screen. I would have paid more $ to get a real "iphone without the phone".

Hi Alpha, 

Could you describe the system you're using with your Touch. Are you referring to the sound out of the headphone out or the line out. I'm trying get a handle if the DAC was improved or the amp section or both. Thanks.