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post #91 of 124
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

The HDJ-2000 do have a great groove factor, which gets even better with some easy modding. They have a downplayed treble though, which does not play as well with acoustics. It sounds fine for the most part, but doesn't have that "zing" in the upper registers to really bring the strings and horns forward (personally I'm overly sensitive to these high frequencies, so that's fine by me).

 

The D2000 do indeed have a nice grooviness to them. A more laid back sound, not as much punch but deeper extension and rumble, like the Pioneers took a good long drag of "the good stuff" and are mellowing out. I don't know if it would induce more toe-tapping in you, although they do have a more level treble than the Pioneers so that may work for you.

 

Thank you for your reply. From what I understand the D2000 would be somehow more 'mellow' although more correct and hi-fi sounding. The treble rollof in the Pioneers is ok for me (even very loud from an iphone they were never ever agressive!) but if I could change something I would like some more mids... and I think that's not the D2000 (proeminent bass&highs).

 

If you had to pick one for listening to fast, rhythmic electronic song (be it house or whatever, but not chillout) would you pick up the Pioneer or the D2000.

 

And for using straight from an ipad/iphone out, which would be the easiest to drive?

 

Finally, regarding isolation from outside noise, I believe the Pioneers are better than D2000, is that right? much better?

 

Thanks again.
 

 

post #92 of 124
Thread Starter 

I would rather pick the Pioneers for a rhythmic electronica (granted I also have mine modded which improve the bass response).

 

The D2000 is terrible for isolation. It leaks almost as much as an open headphone.

post #93 of 124

which has more of and exciting sound m50 or hdj2000 

post #94 of 124
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While I'm not overall a huge fan of the M50, I would say it has a more "engaging" sound than the HDJ-2000 which is more laid back.

post #95 of 124
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

While I'm not overall a huge fan of the M50, I would say it has a more "engaging" sound than the HDJ-2000 which is more laid back.



so m50 is more like WOW headphones ? I really like punchy strong bass so.

post #96 of 124
Thread Starter 

The M50 punches a little harder and has more energy in the treble. The Pioneer has more of a thump and rumble in the bass. The part I don't like as much about the M50 is that the mids feel recessed next to the bass and treble. The Pioneer simply feels bass strong.

post #97 of 124

@Armaegis- Thanks for these informative reviews and follow-ups.

 

 

I agree pretty much with your impressions of the M50's and 840's.

 

I have the ATH-M50 and think they're deserving of their accolades and popularity in their price range.

(Though I much prefer listening to my Ultrasone 740 and Sony MDR-Z1000.)

 

 

The Shure 840's were too big and clunky; not very comfortable - though they did sound good.

I also thought the build quality was somewhat dubious.

Found that I listened to them very rarely.

 

(One night while wearing the 840's I happened to glance in a mirror - it was in a hotel room -

and I was aghast at the way they looked.  Ultimately I sold them, and have never missed them.)

 

 

As for the Q40 - nice headphones that get it right in many ways.

 

But the bass - for me - was too heavy; it was really too much.

As much as I liked their quality and comfort, the exaggerated bass ruled them out for me. 

 

 

I've not heard the Pioneer, but after reading this thread I've got to give them a listen!

 

 

[Edit - formatting]


Edited by zazex - 11/22/11 at 2:00pm
post #98 of 124

So the M-Audio Q40's are the bassiest ones and with the cleanest highs, correct? I'm interested in comparing them with the DENON DJ HP700. Best phone I have ever heard (definition/detail, mids and bass), but the treble is not as good as the SM3 and UM3X.
 


Edited by miow - 4/19/12 at 2:50am
post #99 of 124

 

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So the M-Audio Q40's are the bassiest ones and with the cleanest highs, correct? I'm interested in comparing them with the DENON DJ HP700. Best phone I have ever heard (definition/detail, mids and bass), but the treble is not as good as the SM3 and UM3X.

 

I'd say give it a shot, you might be suprised. If you mean by clean highs as in neutral/accurate it's probably accurate assumption, I think Q40 have very good highs, not emphasized or recessed (ever so slightly rolled-off at the very upper-highs range or starting above somewhere around 11~12kHz and the resolution is a bit above average. Just not the "airiest" sounding.

 

Let's also say this, using WASAPI or ASIO etc with this headphone is a must, definitely has a good impact in terms of highs-clarity, makes them "suitably" clean and almost sparkly sounding but not unrealisticly so.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 4/19/12 at 8:16am
post #100 of 124
Thread Starter 

The bassiest ones for sure. Highs are kind of a tossup. 

post #101 of 124

Ok, I will give them a shot. I'm terribly impressed by the detail of the DENON HP700's, they are detail-monsters with thunderous DEEP bass at the same time (which is rare), but not quite convinced by their treble. I'm accostumed to that ultra-realistic treble of the UM3X and SM3, especially cymbals. They beat the UM3X and SM3 in pretty much every aspect, but not quite on pair on treble's quality.

 

Do you guys know any great biz for them from the EU? Directly from M-Audio Europe they cost 184 EUR with shipping :s
 


Edited by miow - 4/19/12 at 2:22pm
post #102 of 124

Woa, I bought mine for 99 EUR + shipping in Finland which is usually expensive when it comes to headphones. I knew for this headphone that was an exceptional find though for this country which was also why it was such an easy decision to make. It took some time before they got them in stock though and this headphone typically has low stocks/limited availability on sites that sells em.

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/M-Audio-Studiophile-Q40s-Q40-Headphones/dp/B000XT8JTM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334863788&sr=8-1 sells for £120. I'd just have a look for etailers in your country though, google country-specific wise for M-Audio Q40, that's how I found my deal, they seem to be more of the kind of headphones you'll find around in various studio equipment/recording etc kind of specialized dealers, weirdly enough not on thomann.de.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 4/19/12 at 12:37pm
post #103 of 124

Yeah, not on Thomann.de, thats really weird :S

 

No, I don't have a dealer in my Country. They're no longer comercializing M-Audio products. Sucks. From amazon.co.uk, do they shipp to other EU countries?

 

EDIT: I see they do. Same price. £35 shipping cost. lol.

 

EDIT 2: Guys, if anyone's interested in selling his, I'm a buyer.


Edited by miow - 4/19/12 at 1:14pm
post #104 of 124

 

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Originally Posted by miow View Post

From amazon.co.uk, do they shipp to other EU countries?

 

Of course, they even offer free delivery to several european countries if purchased through amazon.co.uk. Bought my Panasonic HTF600 from there, free delivery for like £29 and it was shipped on monday and arrived on wednesday from UK to Finland, talk about fast shipping for a free delivery cost even haha.

 

But in case of Q40 it seems it's not handled by amazon.co.uk directly so u gotta check the international shipping costs invidually for the sellers. When tested putting it into the basket and check shipping costs it didn't seem to add any costs for me for this particular seller.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 4/19/12 at 1:22pm
post #105 of 124

That would make it for me, but they charge £35 shipping cost to Portugal :s
 

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