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post #76 of 124

Same here. Maybe 'cause it's all subjective at the end of the day. What may be 'fun' for someone else may not be 'fun' for me which is why I haven't been quick to pull the trigger on MS400's (or even cheap Panasonic RP HTX7's for that matter although I'm curious to try them). Whereas technical is technical and can't be disputed all that much.  

post #77 of 124
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There's a bit of the audiophile snobbery mindset at play too. My ears are good enough to pick out which one is "technically" better, and so I feel I should pick that one despite enjoying the other one more.

post #78 of 124

I will violate all my principles regarding not rushing to judgment and state that these HDJ-2000 sound pretty damn good to me.

post #79 of 124
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Holy moly that's quite a list! :P How do you like the SJ5's btw?


Man, it's been years since I last listened to them...but I recall not caring for them much. They had a creaky frame, poor isolation, and a kind of awkward fit that made them not ideal for on-the-go use. Sound-wise, I remember them having somewhat honky, unrealistic mids and a "plasticy" resonance low-end closed cans often suffer from. Until I upgraded to the ATH-ESW9 pads on my ATH-ES7s, though, I did prefer the SJ5 pads over the stock ES7 ones.

 

Out of everything on that list, what prompted you to ask about the SJ5s?

post #80 of 124
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Man, it's been years since I last listened to them...but I recall not caring for them much. They had a creaky frame, poor isolation, and a kind of awkward fit that made them not ideal for on-the-go use. Sound-wise, I remember them having somewhat honky, unrealistic mids and a "plasticy" resonance low-end closed cans often suffer from. Until I upgraded to the ATH-ESW9 pads on my ATH-ES7s, though, I did prefer the SJ5 pads over the stock ES7 ones.

 

Out of everything on that list, what prompted you to ask about the SJ5s?



lol Yeah I'm random, I know. They were my first entry-level can coming into headfii, although I discovered them right before headfi. Funny, I wore them out today for the first time in a long time (usually wear my HD-25's for on-the-go). No where near as detailed but I dunno, there's just something that I love about them. They're fun, relaxed, comfortable, stylish and have good isolation IMO (I can still enjoy them on an NYC subway). Figured I would ask you what you thought of them because they're kind of underrated on headfi and I was curious about your opinion, considering how many cans you have. I personally have a soft spot for them, although I wish I got them for $50 instead of $80 when they first came out. Besides the wonky build, I find the sound to be good for their price, colored but balanced except for some treble roll-off. I find the isolation and comfort to be great though. Just a notch below the HD-25's when it comes to isolation. I see what you mean about the plasticy resonance though. Today I was thinking I should get them recabled with a nice silver cable to increase some detail. Not sure it would make much of a difference.

 

post #81 of 124
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Any interest in me doing a similar thread between the HD25 and DT1350 and T50p? or perhaps just add all the comparisons into this one...

post #82 of 124
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Any interest in me doing a similar thread between the HD25 and DT1350 and T50p? or perhaps just add all the comparisons into this one...

 

Yeah sure, that'd definitely be an interesting comparison.  Those headphones belong in their own thread, imo.
 

 

post #83 of 124

Throw in the Aiaiai TMA-1 into the on-ear portables comparison too.

post #84 of 124
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Except I don't have one. I have an HD25-13 coming in (600 ohm version of the HD25-1), a friend who has a T50p, and another friend who has the DT1350 and regular HD25-1-ii.

 

If someone wants to send me one, I'd be happy to add it for comparison.

post #85 of 124
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And here's the moneyshot...

 

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For the sake of listing:

Beyerdynamic DT1350

Sennheiser HD25-13-ii (the 600 ohm version of the HD25-1-ii)

Pioneer HDJ-2000

post #86 of 124
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post #87 of 124

To all who may care, I just tried the HDJ-2000 extensively and my conclusion is that when you have been spoiled for years by the HD-600 mids, no DJ headphone is satisfying anymore, no matter how much I crave for real 'meaty' bass for house music (which the HD-600 simply can't deliver)... decisions.... :)

 

Any suggestions for thumping bass with HD-600-like mids? Or something like grado but also with more bass. thanks!

post #88 of 124
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All DJ style cans are deliberately bass and treble heavy, and the mids will feel recessed in comparison. For meaty bass while retaining strong mids, perhaps a Denon D2000/5000 or a well modded ortho. You could also consider a MS400, or perhaps the MS300 if you're looking for something with a little more Grado like sound.

post #89 of 124
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All DJ style cans are deliberately bass and treble heavy, and the mids will feel recessed in comparison. For meaty bass while retaining strong mids, perhaps a Denon D2000/5000 or a well modded ortho. You could also consider a MS400, or perhaps the MS300 if you're looking for something with a little more Grado like sound.

 

Thank you for your reply. I was also actually considering the D2000 as an alternative (based only on reviews only, need to buy to listen).

 

Today I had another listen to the Pioneers (from the iphone out only) and I did enjoy them a lot with house music and some pop/rock, everything else is just 'ok' (considering I am a bit spoiled by my home setup). What I enjoyed the most was their 'grooviness' with "chicago house", they made me want to dance and tap my feet to the beats (HD-600 never did that...) but with acoustic latin music for instance they were not that good (e.g. Buena vista social club). For house music alone I would not hesitate to buy them but I keep wondering if the D2000 are maybe as good with house/electronica AND also much better with pop/rock/acoustic.

 

I believe I saw in another thread that you have also some experience with the Denon D2000, could you (please!) compare them? (straight from an iphone and with dedicated amplification). Besides just bass 'impact' and quantity please let me know if the D2000 are as groovy as the Pioneers and if they make you want to dance too :)

 

thank you very much!

post #90 of 124
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The HDJ-2000 do have a great groove factor, which gets even better with some easy modding. They have a downplayed treble though, which does not play as well with acoustics. It sounds fine for the most part, but doesn't have that "zing" in the upper registers to really bring the strings and horns forward (personally I'm overly sensitive to these high frequencies, so that's fine by me).

 

The D2000 do indeed have a nice grooviness to them. A more laid back sound, not as much punch but deeper extension and rumble, like the Pioneers took a good long drag of "the good stuff" and are mellowing out. I don't know if it would induce more toe-tapping in you, although they do have a more level treble than the Pioneers so that may work for you.

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