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post #61 of 124
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Take a look through my profile for my Phiaton MS400 review. I have some pics which show where I stuffed some cotton/gauze under the earpads. I basically did the same thing with the HDJ-2000 and it improved comfort and ear clearance for me.

post #62 of 124

Thanks Armaegis, yes I remember those photos and reading your awesome review.  

 

BTW how would you compare these to the MS400's overall?

post #63 of 124
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Overall, I would say I prefer the HDJ-2000, but the MS400 does have a more "fun" sound to it. The Pioneer is more technical oriented, while the Phiaton likes to gets its groove on.

post #64 of 124
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post #65 of 124

Awesome, thanks for posting that. Glad he linked this thread on his website too. smily_headphones1.gif

post #66 of 124

That does it. I'm in.

post #67 of 124

There's one in the FS forum going for $210. Not a bad price at all. 

post #68 of 124

As for my long-delayed impressions, I have to say I'm very much in agreement with Armaegis and roma101. I find the sound, at the $200-$250 price level, beyond reproach: highs are detailed and present but not sharp or unduly sibilant; mids are forward and full without any honkiness; and lows are textured, present without being obtrusive, and reasonably impactful (a hair below the ATH-M50s, as Armaegis said). For my tastes, I could do with just a tad more bass impact, and maybe a bit more rumble/reverb, but I wouldn't say the HDJ-2000s' bass is lacking in any absolute sense. They don't make my music sound like it's missing bass; I just think I would enjoy a little more oomph...but not much more, and certainly not at the expense of the rest of the (very cohesive) sound spectrum. The HDJ-2000s really do strike a nice balance. (Side note: I also tried the Denon AH-D1100s recently, thinking their reputed bassiness might be up my alley, and I found it unpleasantly sloppy and almost painfully overwhelming.) I'll add that I have been surprised by the level of nuance in the HDJ-2000s' bass region. Low-end details are more distinct with the HDJ-2000s than the M50s (probably in part because there's less reverb to obsure them), and the little sonic discoveries that's afforded have been a joy to make.

 

And now for the kicker: I'm going to return them. Why? Because the earpads are so shallow that, just as with roma101, my left ear touches the driver housing. It's my outer-ear cartilage, to be exact, and it doesn't just touch, it presses. Enough to be distracting in the short run and downright uncomfortable in the long run. Everything I've done to try and ameliorate it has either diminished the sound quality (e.g. bolstering the padding with cotton or foam) or not increased the comfort enough to matter (e.g. adding strips of foam window sealant to the driver housing). It's a damn shame, as I truly love how the HDJ-2000s sound...but I know myself well enough to understand that my uncomfortable cans, no matter how great their sound quality, end up collecting dust. So, with a heavy heart and a wistful tear, I must send them back to that great headphone factory in the sky...


Edited by epithetless - 7/1/11 at 6:07pm
post #69 of 124

epithetless, you got me with that one. I did not expect that second paragraph. I take it you think the discomfort is not likely to abate? You are not the only person who has had this problem, so now my enthusiasm is dampened. Although I will say that, as a Grado-lover, I am somewhat tolerant of discomfort, so maybe I will think they are worth it. Still, I bought them new so that I can return them if I don't like them (thanks for the tip though roma101!) Anyway, thank you very much for your excellent impressions! 

post #70 of 124

Unfortunately, I don't think the sort of discomfort I'm experiencing with the HDJ-2000s is likely to improve, since it's due to the firm part of my ear pressing against hard, molded plastic. If it was just a clamping-force or a pad break-in issue, my feelings would probably be different. Bear in mind, though, that my left ear seems to be rather headphone-unfriendly (much to my dismay), as I've encountered similar problems with other headphones...especially round-padded (vs oval-padded) circumaurals...so don't lose hope until you have yours in hand. If they end up working for you, just be grateful you don't have my ear! biggrin.gif

post #71 of 124
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Perhaps supraaural headphones would be more suitable for you?

post #72 of 124
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Perhaps supraaural headphones would be more suitable for you?

 

Not as a rule, no, and I definitely prefer circumaural when they fit comfortably. But either way it's not like I'm at a total loss for headphones to wear... dt880smile.png

post #73 of 124
Thread Starter 

Hah, touché. I typically find circumaurals more comfortable, and yet the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn have been the Senn PX100 and B&W P5.

post #74 of 124
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Originally Posted by epithetless View Post

 

Not as a rule, no, and I definitely prefer circumaural when they fit comfortably. But either way it's not like I'm at a total loss for headphones to wear... dt880smile.png



Holy moly that's quite a list! :P How do you like the SJ5's btw?

post #75 of 124
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Overall, I would say I prefer the HDJ-2000, but the MS400 does have a more "fun" sound to it. The Pioneer is more technical oriented, while the Phiaton likes to gets its groove on.



funny how a lot of people including myself opt for the "technical" headphone to listen, when a "fun" sound should probably be more in order.

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