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post #1486 of 1616
12/19/12 at 4:36am
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Originally Posted by MrViolin View Post

I just got these suckers today, but haven't opened them (for the sake of possibly returning and getting the 7520's). I currently don't have any files/amps/dacs to make these babies shine, but I will soon. For quick reference since I haven't caught up on the thread yet, what amp/dac combos are recommended for these phones? I'm thinking of going bifrost/asgard presently since Burson is know for being "bright". I take bright as having more detail/clarity, but I could be wrong in that you guys would take it for sibilant.

 

 

i would think bright means its tilted to the treble side, i dont think it necessarily means more detail/clarity or sibilant/harsh. for example, i have a pair of radio earbuds and compared it with my beyerdynamic dt990, the dt990 has clearer mid (of course...) but the radio earbuds were brighter on the mid (i was listening solely on the mid but do notice other differences in other frequency...). 

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post #1487 of 1616
12/19/12 at 3:05pm

Thanks for the clarification red!

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post #1488 of 1616
12/19/12 at 8:27pm

the somewhat "bright" dx100 sounds great with the z1000 as well

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post #1489 of 1616
12/19/12 at 9:37pm

Alright... I caught up on reading thread :s it's a killer that the branches are plastic (just noticed the zx700 had the same paint for the end, but I guess you could differentiate by tapping since the metal part on my V6 wasn't cold). If they're that demanding of the source, then perhaps I might return them and save my self a couple hundred from the phones + the gear for them. For me the jump from my JVCs to the v6 has been amazing so far (night and day). Mike from headphonia says they're 10x better than the v6 (then again he's got crazy gear)... but I'd spend at least another 200 for an entry level dac/amp combo + the price of CDs. Then comes in the squeak frown.gif which I really wouldn't want to perform a DIY on.    

 

Ik this may seem like me complaining, but I'm putting my thoughts out since I'm really uncertain. Just am thinking about returning them to avoid all of the possible future hassle (online manual said the pads would wear and I can't find any OEM replacements or anything leather/pleather to replace with). Just have really mixed feelings about this phone since the return window ends in another 7-8 days for amazon (not sure about this though) confused_face_2.gif People that love it, do like it, but end up with squeaks (red is the only person besides another or 2-3 ppl on this thread). Schiit Magni and Modi reviews should be done soon w/ 50-100 hrs burn-in for those who got it early. 

But overall, was/is the squeak THAT bad? After reading and catching up I'm a lot more worried now... 

 

Edit: It's not the sound that really bothers me, but the physical flaws that you guys mentioned :s 


Edited by MrViolin - 12/19/12 at 9:40pm
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post #1490 of 1616
12/19/12 at 10:24pm
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Originally Posted by MrViolin View Post

Alright... I caught up on reading thread :s it's a killer that the branches are plastic (just noticed the zx700 had the same paint for the end, but I guess you could differentiate by tapping since the metal part on my V6 wasn't cold). If they're that demanding of the source, then perhaps I might return them and save my self a couple hundred from the phones + the gear for them. For me the jump from my JVCs to the v6 has been amazing so far (night and day). Mike from headphonia says they're 10x better than the v6 (then again he's got crazy gear)... but I'd spend at least another 200 for an entry level dac/amp combo + the price of CDs. Then comes in the squeak frown.gif which I really wouldn't want to perform a DIY on.    

 

Ik this may seem like me complaining, but I'm putting my thoughts out since I'm really uncertain. Just am thinking about returning them to avoid all of the possible future hassle (online manual said the pads would wear and I can't find any OEM replacements or anything leather/pleather to replace with). Just have really mixed feelings about this phone since the return window ends in another 7-8 days for amazon (not sure about this though) confused_face_2.gif People that love it, do like it, but end up with squeaks (red is the only person besides another or 2-3 ppl on this thread). Schiit Magni and Modi reviews should be done soon w/ 50-100 hrs burn-in for those who got it early. 

But overall, was/is the squeak THAT bad? After reading and catching up I'm a lot more worried now... 

 

Edit: It's not the sound that really bothers me, but the physical flaws that you guys mentioned :s 

 

 

about build quality you should ask someone else, my sony z1000 is very lightly used because im using my beyer dt990 most of the time (bigger pads so a little bit more comfortable for my ears for longer listening and now i listen at home more so i can use an open headphone) and is also used very carefully

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Dyaems View Post

the somewhat "bright" dx100 sounds great with the z1000 as well

thanks for telling me that, its very possible that im buying the dx100

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post #1491 of 1616
12/19/12 at 10:44pm
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Originally Posted by MrViolin View Post

Alright... I caught up on reading thread :s it's a killer that the branches are plastic (just noticed the zx700 had the same paint for the end, but I guess you could differentiate by tapping since the metal part on my V6 wasn't cold). If they're that demanding of the source, then perhaps I might return them and save my self a couple hundred from the phones + the gear for them. For me the jump from my JVCs to the v6 has been amazing so far (night and day). Mike from headphonia says they're 10x better than the v6 (then again he's got crazy gear)... but I'd spend at least another 200 for an entry level dac/amp combo + the price of CDs. Then comes in the squeak frown.gif which I really wouldn't want to perform a DIY on.    

 

Ik this may seem like me complaining, but I'm putting my thoughts out since I'm really uncertain. Just am thinking about returning them to avoid all of the possible future hassle (online manual said the pads would wear and I can't find any OEM replacements or anything leather/pleather to replace with). Just have really mixed feelings about this phone since the return window ends in another 7-8 days for amazon (not sure about this though) confused_face_2.gif People that love it, do like it, but end up with squeaks (red is the only person besides another or 2-3 ppl on this thread). Schiit Magni and Modi reviews should be done soon w/ 50-100 hrs burn-in for those who got it early. 

But overall, was/is the squeak THAT bad? After reading and catching up I'm a lot more worried now... 

 

Edit: It's not the sound that really bothers me, but the physical flaws that you guys mentioned :s 

 

that squeaking problem only happened to my friend's unit and there is a fix for that. other people who owned a z1000 here never occured to them. i could be wrong as i never read the entire thread.

 

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thanks for telling me that, its very possible that im buying the dx100

 

haha no problem


Edited by Dyaems - 12/19/12 at 10:46pm
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post #1492 of 1616
12/19/12 at 10:57pm

btw, dyaems, you must be using low gain on the dx100 right? because the z1000 is very easy to drive... and how about the "peak"? is the combo not fatiguing? 


Edited by reddragon - 12/19/12 at 10:59pm
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post #1493 of 1616
12/19/12 at 11:15pm
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that squeaking problem only happened to my friend's unit and there is a fix for that. other people who owned a z1000 here never occured to them. i could be wrong as i never read the entire thread.

 

 

haha no problem

 

Yeah, my Z1000 has no squeaking.

 

Though I am probably considering selling my pair -- the mids are quite nice, but have the "in my head" type sound that the SM3 also had... not a signature that I enjoy. It's unfortunate too because I really wanted this to be a end-game type 'phone.

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post #1494 of 1616
12/19/12 at 11:29pm
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Originally Posted by HeroicPenguin View Post

 

Yeah, my Z1000 has no squeaking.

 

Though I am probably considering selling my pair -- the mids are quite nice, but have the "in my head" type sound that the SM3 also had... not a signature that I enjoy. It's unfortunate too because I really wanted this to be a end-game type 'phone.

 

 

 

i know what you mean but its ok to me, it just makes things sound more intimate. i never intended to get this can as an end game can though i think it sounds really nice and is the best sounding headphone i currently own.

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post #1495 of 1616
12/20/12 at 12:02am
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post

btw, dyaems, you must be using low gain on the dx100 right? because the z1000 is very easy to drive... and how about the "peak"? is the combo not fatiguing? 


low gain or midgain depending on songs because some songs with better recording/mastering usually has alot lower volume. but i usually use low gain for the z1000. that peak only happens for a split second and it is not annoying in my book. but it bugs me alot when listening to poorly recorded songs like jpop haha

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post #1496 of 1616
12/20/12 at 12:18am
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low gain or midgain depending on songs because some songs with better recording/mastering usually has alot lower volume. but i usually use low gain for the z1000. that peak only happens for a split second and it is not annoying in my book. but it bugs me alot when listening to poorly recorded songs like jpop haha

 

 

i see, if hifiman hm901 is not released in january, then i will get the dx100, looking forward to use it with my z1000

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post #1497 of 1616
12/20/12 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by Ultrazino View Post

It took pretty long to finally get a statement, but here you go.

 

Jude writes in his 2012 Holiday Gift Guide:

 

Well well... That's some really unexpceted and intriguing news, Espcially after hifiguy528 (or wh#tever) confi,ed no sonic difference whatsoever. I'll be glad to see this resolved with some measurments.

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Originally Posted by HeroicPenguin View Post

 

Though I am probably considering selling my pair -- the mids are quite nice, but have the "in my head" type sound that the SM3 also had... not a signature that I enjoy. It's unfortunate too because I really wanted this to be a end-game type 'phone.

 

My pair had never had an "in head" tupe of presentation, It wasn't anything apcious really but not cramped by any means, just A focused, half-sphere-like staging with excellent frontal imaging. That's staight out of a Cowon DAP. Never heard them amped regretfully.

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post #1498 of 1616
12/20/12 at 2:25pm

Thanks Dyaems. Read and found that there were fixes, but I'm a bit worried when it comes to DIY since I might cause an imbalance/mess something up.

 

How're everyone's pads doing? Can't find any OEM replacements or pleather pads, but the gel pads look interesting :p  Same goes for buying the cables (love coil cables). Well, looks like these are probably going to be keepers. These are probably the ones that'll be the end-game for a while since Mike said they're a lot better than the V6. Thanks guys!

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post #1499 of 1616
12/20/12 at 3:19pm

the z1000 internal cables are crazy long, i doubt you'll accidentally tug it when opening the z1000. i open both cups when i try to get rid of the squeaking issue my friend had because im lazy fixing it haha

 

those pads seems it has good quality, but for safety measures, wipe the pads with tissue or your handkerchief after usage specially if it becomes oily or sweaty which is usually the case.

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post #1500 of 1616
12/20/12 at 4:00pm
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Originally Posted by Amarphael View Post

Well well... That's some really unexpceted and intriguing news, Espcially after hifiguy528 (or wh#tever) confi,ed no sonic difference whatsoever. I'll be glad to see this resolved with some measurments.

 

That "hifiguy" listens to so many Beats on his YouTube channel, I'd be surprised if he actually ever listened to them closely.

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