New iPod Family! - Page 15

Then you should say not "improving SQ will cost a lot", but "apple tries to minimize its expenses in order to maximize their profits because the retail price is set in advance, and apple will cut everything if that is not critical for majority of the customers"

My reaction to the new Nano:

 

Hmm. I woudn't get any of the new ones right off the bat but I do like the idea of the new Nanos. If the SQ was good it wouldn't be too bad for walking between classes; but then again I have my phone for that.

I'm saying the same about apple. Apple fanboys are saying that itouch has a touchscreen and apps and wifi and games and camera etc, but i'm using a DAP as a DAP, with a sole purpose of listening music. And all apple production does its purpose insanely bad, but instead offers a bunch of bells and whistles.

 

It's not just that they are better at advertising it.  It's not as if the ipod and zune both came out at the same time, and were equally good, and Apple just out advertised them.  The zune is a reaction to the ipod and its success.  Microsoft saw how much people like something that is easy to use, and then they designed the zune.  What makes the ipod more successful than the Zune is that Apple did it first- years before the Zune.  For Zune to get much market share, they would have to convince people to switch from the ipod to the Zune, which would take more than just copying Apple, it would take real innovation of their own. 

 

The only reason the Droid is doing as well as it is, is because the iphone is only on ATT.  If the iphone was on all networks, the droid would have a much more difficult time getting traction against Apple.  As it is, the Droid is the only option for many people. 

That may be a little unfair. The droid is also doing well because Google is championing it. Any company with that kind of weight would get some market share.

 

To be honest, I wish the Zune was better marketed and run. The HD was a solid competitor to the Touch. Without competition, Apple does tend to get lazy. Microsoft disappoints me these days.

Thanks, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm after. Rather than use RAID to offer some protection in case of HDD failure, I was going to do what my dad does and pay a subscription to Mozey (spelling?). You basically run a specialised torrent client on your computer, select all the files you want to back up and it uploads them to encrypted remote storage at their data centre. It only updates thereafter if you either add new files to a folder or modify existing files. Pretty cool and means if by some freak disaster the house blew up, I wouldn't have lost anything.
 

The trouble is that single-use devices are taking a back seat to PMPs because that's what people want, that's what they're buying. Even things like the Cowon S9 and J3, S:Flo2, Sony's, Zunes e.t.c. that are popular here are PMPs, it's really only the niche products like the Hifimans, Amp3, and so on that are pure DAPs. Loads of people on Head-Fi would love a high-quality DAP that worked as well as an iPod, but we're hardly representative of the general consumer market who buy these things. As other have said, if Apple aren't doing it for you, buy something else. They don't exist to fulfil the whims of a few hundred people on an internet forum, and since portable multimedia and integrating that with 'full size' devices seems to be the goal of the big companies, it's really the smaller companies that are the best hope for something that ticks all your boxes. 

 

 

Oh yeah yeah, I meant that Apple aren't the only ones who make nice UIs or tech that non-nerds can use. It's clear that Apple usually set trends with devices that get other companies scrambling to put out their own versions in order to grab some of the market, e.g. the explosion of touch-screen phones and marketing smart-phones towards everyday users (would Blackberries really be as popular with the kids if it wasn't for the iPhone?), internet tablets after the iPad, that new Microsoft mouse and perhaps their decision to make dedicated stores, etc etc etc etc.
 

You're right, I should have said the main reason the droid is doing as well as it is...

 

It seems to be a nice phone.  But it wouldn't be nearly as successful if the iphone was on other networks.  Not even because the iphone is better, but just because the iphone was the first smart phone that non-tech engineers could use, and enjoy using.  It set the standard that all other companies are trying to reach.  Like I've been saying, it is certainly debatable which one currently is the best, but it doesn't seem debatable to ma at all who made the first leap and is responsible for most/all of the innovation.

Kirosia not happy new ipod model screen may have worse viewing angles. 

 

 

iPhone 4 with retina screen in the middle. iPod Touch 4G has the same screen. Viewing angles, a non-issue.

 

ps. Galaxy S (left) and iPhone 3 (right)

Edited by Maxvla - 9/5/10 at 3:58pm

^ http://www.redmondpie.com/ipod-touch-4gs-retina-display-may-not-be-same-as-the-one-on-iphone-4-video/

 

Not exactly evidence, but still worries me for now. I would rather an iphone, but $700 for a 32GB is too much (I'm on prepaid). 

Hm. That is a bit disconcerting. They billed it as the same screen as the iPhone 4. Really glad I didn't go all out and order the 64GB version now.

I wonder if the iPhone 4 and Touch share the same screen, but perhaps the glass top is different. Also, power management on the Touch might be set differently to lengthen battery life. It makes sense for Apple to use the same display because of economies of scale, but I would not be surprised if other variables were tinkered with.

I sure hope the pixel density of the Retina Display finds its way into other Apple products. This is the best display I've ever used - the crispness is amazing. I'd love for them to put it onto the iPad and laptops.

I agree that AT&T is the limiting factor for iPhone adoption. AT&T is awful and I was about to buy an Android phone a few months back, but the iPhone 4 was too nice a piece of hardware to pass up. I'll immediately dump AT&T when I can and I don't mind paying off the contract. Also, if an Android phone comes out that has a screen this nice and works with Linux, I might switch. We'll see what happens over the next couple of years.

A Verizon iPhone around January is looking more and more solid as the weeks pass.

It's lame you guys haven't got any option with networks. Over here O2 had a complete monopoly on the iPhone for ages, but since last Christmas their exclusivity thing ended and now you can get it everywhere. I understand your situation is a bit different since one uses GSM and one uses something else?

 

The 2nd Gen iPad should be a likely candidate for a Retina Display, you'd' hope.

 

Even if the viewing angles aren't as good on the Touch, how often will you honestly USE the thing from acute angles? It's not like a TV where you can end up sitting in non-optimal positions due to room layout.

Edited by Somnambulist - 9/5/10 at 4:54pm