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post #16 of 451
9/1/10 at 1:31pm

The rear camera of the Touch is 960x720, with video recording at 1280x720, apparently.

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post #17 of 451
9/1/10 at 1:35pm

MacMinis and MacBooks make amazing music servers, not to mention the iMacs.  Completely easy to setup and operate, and you cant forget to mention Front Row as an amazing app for music servers.  Perfect!

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post #18 of 451
9/1/10 at 1:39pm

Thanks for the news, the new Touch looks sleek but I'm not buying one until they are on par with Hifiman's players regarding SQ :p

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post #19 of 451
9/1/10 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by .Sup View Post

Thanks for the news, the new Touch looks sleek but I'm not buying one until they are on par with Hifiman's players regarding SQ :p


So, you're never getting one then?

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post #20 of 451
9/1/10 at 1:49pm

The new ipod touch is unavoidably tempting for me, the main draw being the new screen. I just have to decide between 32gb and 64gb. I'll be using it for a lot of video, so 64gb is the obvious choice. Though $400 is more than I'd like to spend on a handheld device. At least I'll have a couple weeks to think about it.

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post #21 of 451
9/1/10 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by Somnambulist View Post

The rear camera of the Touch is 960x720, with video recording at 1280x720, apparently.


Yeah which doesn't really make sense to me. Did they really have to leave out full resolution (whatever res the camera may be) still photo capabilities?

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post #22 of 451
9/1/10 at 1:53pm

The camera can't take pictures? what?

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post #23 of 451
9/1/10 at 1:59pm
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The camera can't take pictures? what?


It can take pictures but their resolution is apparently capped at 960 x 720 which is...rather poor.

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post #24 of 451
9/1/10 at 2:08pm


 

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penartur, it's not so much who innovates but who makes the best implementation.


And Apple never did a "best implementation". Zune 80/120 is better than Classic, Sony NW-HD5 is better than 3rd and 4th gen, Sony A8 is better than nano etc...

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post #25 of 451
9/1/10 at 2:11pm

huh...so new Ipod classic...great, not even a price drop, I was looking to snatch one of these up (hopefully at a lower price) what do you guys think, is it a safe buy now?

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post #26 of 451
9/1/10 at 2:15pm
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Too rude and not much of a history buff. Simple search will show it had the first lossless (not uncompressed) support for one. First pocketable DAP to with line-out support too. And if you want to be generous kinda created the entire market (if you consider the sales of the Creative Nomads and early Rio players* at the time of the iPods introduction). The 1G iPod was my third 'MP3 player' and probably eighth 'portable music player' and its affect on the personal music world was no more 'bound to happen' than the MP3 player years proceeding or the entire history of the MiniDisc. But something changed. You can argue about the cause, but not really the star.

 

This is a fun, slightly related article worth reading as a reminder of those early days and how a series of smart Apple decisions, a lot of bad Sony ones, and the difference in business perspective they came from, potentially made all the difference. 

 

 

*Diamond/Rio - the original company - deserves a lot of credit for fighting the labels on even MP3 use. That legal battle and the iPods introduction are the two major points of DAP-dom to me. Everything else is minor in comparison. Well, maybe P2P sharing had a little impact. ;) 


I don't understand, in one sentence you're saying that apple created the entire market, and in other you're saying that 1st gen ipod was your third mp3 player.

Also it is clearly seen from apple policy that if some ipod has line out, this is purely unintentionally. This is just like praising apple for creating rockbox-running player.

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post #27 of 451
9/1/10 at 2:36pm
penartur, some of the other players are quite good. I like the Zune HD and a few others I've played with. If Microsoft were more savvy, they'd make the Zune compatible with OS X and Linux. Especially Linux, since the hacker crowd would probably embrace it and lend credibility.

My point should be fleshed out a little more. It's the company that gets an idea implemented the right way first that usually gets the marketshare. Apple was the first to make a functional, easy to use, MP3 player. Apple got it right and sales exploded. They did the same with the smartphone, home computers, and the GUI. Even Microsoft has licensed a bit of the Mac GUI, so when you're running Windows, you are using Apple's technology. Apple also got a license to the XP APIs... they could put XP functionality into OS X if they wanted. They haven't yet, but we'll see.

Because Apple was first to market with MP3 players, they were able to dominate the field. Even very good players that came later struggle with gaining marketshare. Microsoft showed up late to the party. If they had introduced the Zune four years earlier, I bet they would be a major player.

Don't chalk it up to fanboys, either. If that were true, people would be playing games on a Pippin (look it up), there would have never been a Mac since the Lisa would have taken off and we'd be talking on Newtons instead of iPhones.

You'll also notice that Apple is continuing to push the envelope. The new Apple TV is going to integrate television and movies into the iPod, iPad and iPhone. I think OS XI (or whatever they call it) will merge OS X with iOS, resulting in lots of gesture-based products with a more formal OS.

I don't know if that will succeed, but if the past trn years is any indication, it will take Microsoft three or four years to catch up.
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post #28 of 451
9/1/10 at 2:38pm

Liking the Touch, but going to wait until I hear more about an iPhone on Verizon (it will happen, and I will sell my Droid X when it does). If the Verizon iPhone is far enough out I will probably get a Touch. The Apple TV is going to be under my TV this year though.

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post #29 of 451
9/1/10 at 2:43pm
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And Apple never did a "best implementation". Zune 80/120 is better than Classic, Sony NW-HD5 is better than 3rd and 4th gen, Sony A8 is better than nano etc...


From a software standpoint that is pretty laughable, but its your opinion so whatever. Sony has better sound, though.

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post #30 of 451
9/1/10 at 3:04pm
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Because Apple was first to market with MP3 players, they were able to dominate the field.


Apple was far from first. There was MP Man, Diamond Rio, Samsung Yepp, JazPiper, RCA/Thomson Lyra, Creative and others way before Apple came with their iPods.

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