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post #1 of 94
Thread Starter 
Earlier this month I bought a pair of "MDR-V6" headphones from eBay. Price was about $40 shipped to my door which was obviously too good to be true. That, on top of the seller already having a bunch of negative feedbacks for selling counterfeit headphones was a pretty clear sign. I decided to get a pair anyway just to see what exactly a counterfeit headphone looks like anyway. I had a pair of Sony MDR-7506 headphones in the past so I’m pretty familiar with the sound. I also borrowed newly purchased pair from a friend who got them at a local store. About a week after the auction the Seller was "no longer a registered member of eBay" lol. Package took almost a month to arrive and for some reason went all the way through New York, even though that isn't exactly on the way from Hong Kong to California...


Authentic pair on the left, Counterfeit pair on the right.

The fake headphones came rather loosely packed and did not really form-fit into the packaging like the authentic pair do. The manual is a cheap copy, and the little leather pouch feels like it’s made out of cheap plastic-leather material, definitely a different kind of leather than the authentic pouch.




With the fake headphones, the red material is sloppy and hastily attached, on the authentic pair it is clean and professional looking. The boxes are nearly identical but on the fake pair all of the printing is done on a plastic insert that is behind the first plastic layer of the box. On the authentic pair, there is only one layer of plastic, that is part of the box, and it’s printed directly on there.



The fake pair did not come with the cord wrapped up while the authentic pair did.



One thing that is immediately obvious is the headband. The authentic pair actually clamps on my head pretty well. The counterfeit pair feels like it’s about to fall off my head and has very little clamping force. The headband itself is slightly different between the two. The leather material is very slightly different, and the stitching is tighter on the authentic pair. The metal part where you adjust the headphone to fit your head is slightly different. On the authentic pair it slides in and out like a well-oiled machine and you hear a click for every notch. On the counterfeit pair adjusting the size feels like you’re adjusting something cheap, and there is much less of a defined “click” for each notch on the metal.



The cord on the fake pair looks to be made of a slightly cheaper rubber and the cord isn’t coiled as tightly (top cord is authentic, bottom is fake).



Now we’re getting to it. There are clear differences in the driver. The metal on the authentic pair feels like thin steel, while the metal on the counterfeit pair is definitely aluminum. The configuration of the holes is slightly different as well.




Authentic on top, fake on bottom. Overall the drivers look a lot closer to each other than I expected. You can tell that there are some differences when you look in through the metal in the front.

Overall, I’d say it’s a pretty good counterfeit. It would be extremely difficult to tell that it was a fake by looking at it without having a real pair sitting right there.

The sound however, reveals the biggest difference.

Listening to the authentic pair, one of the first things you notice is the rather bright treble that these headphones are known for. Along with the punchy bass these are basically the exact same sound I remember from my MDR-7506 headphones. There is really no mistaking that treble, these are the real deal.

Listening to the counterfeit pair, you immediately notice that the highs that you expect to be there are simply gone, not there at all. MDR-V6 headphones have a fairly easy to identify sound signature and these definitely don’t have it. In addition to the lack of treble, the bass was also muddy with each beat not being particularly defined. Pretty much the kind of sound you would expect out of a ~$20 pair of headphones purchased at K-Mart. Even though there are a lot of subtle differences between the two, you could probably write off the differences as them coming from different factories or something. The sound is a clear giveaway though. I feel bad for anyone who bought a pair and thinks they are real, as they simply don’t know what they are missing.
Edited by GotNoRice - 12/12/12 at 9:50am
post #2 of 94

GotNoRice - You're my man (or woman)! This is exactly what we needed to learn what differs the original from the fake. Good work. I'm attaching a few pictures of my China made V6 which seem to confirm that they are indeed original Sonys. I urge you other V6 owners out there to check the "Made in.." mark.

 

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post #3 of 94
Thread Starter 

Fwiw my authentic and counterfeit pair both are labeled "Made in Thailand" (Always thought they were made in either Japan or China, but guess not).  But your metal grill in front of the driver definitely matches the authentic pair and not the counterfeit pair.

post #4 of 94

Im sure you invested lots of time to research this info...great job buddy! 

This will help us to be aware of fakes on the market. 

post #5 of 94

I'm currently comparing my V6s... I think what will really fix me one way or the other is to know which is the real pair and which is the fake pair in this picture:

http://gotnorice.dnsdojo.com/fakev6/DSC05590.JPG

 

Thanks

post #6 of 94
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by boutboulman View Post

I'm currently comparing my V6s... I think what will really fix me one way or the other is to know which is the real pair and which is the fake pair in this picture:

http://gotnorice.no-ip.org/fakev6/DSC05590.JPG


In all of the pictures that have both headphones in the same shot, the fake one is the one on the right and the authentic pair is the one on the left.


Edited by GotNoRice - 12/12/12 at 10:05am
post #7 of 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotNoRice View Post


In all of the pictures that have both headphones in the same shot, the fake one is the one on the right and the authentic pair is the one on the left.


Sigh...

 

In that case I have a fake pair. Eurgh.

 

The pink material is sloppily attached on my copy.

The printing is on a plastic insert behind the front of the box on my copy.

I can't remember if the cord was wrapped up or not, but I don't think it was.

I feel like the material on the headband is fairly tight, and there is a click when for each notch... but maybe not to the standard of real ones.

My cord probably looks more like the fake one.

The configuration of my holes looks like the fake one.

And neither driver has anything printed on it, as per the photo of the real V6 posted.

 

I spent hours looking at them when I got them, comparing to photos on the internet, trying to decide if they were real or fake.

To me, they sound good, better than any other headphones, but...

 

Quote:
I feel bad for anyone who bought a pair and thinks they are real, as they simply don’t know what they are missing.

 

I'm as disappointed as I am pissed off. I gave the seller good feedback, which is annoying, and on top of that I payed more for these fake ones than most did for fake V6s.

 

Any advice on what I should do now..? :(

post #8 of 94

A friend of mine ordered a pair of V6's after hearing mine, and the ones he got were the fake ones.

 

He didn't know at first, but once I got my hands on them I was 90% certain they were fake. The biggest giveaway for me was the headband for sure. After examining them for a bit I hit this thread up and was 100% certain.

 

It was even sold by a retailer on Amazon with 99% positive feedback. A store called "Your Deal".

 

So if anyone plans on buying these from Amazon, avoid that store like the plague.


Edited by Kukuk - 9/15/10 at 9:55pm
post #9 of 94

Does anybody think that it's possible that Sony manufactures different models of 7506's?  One model for sale in the US, and one for sale in other parts of the world?  I have been using MDR7506's for a long time.  (20 years-ish).  Have always bought them from BSW, or musicians friend.  I just bought a few pair from an ebayer for around $54. 

 

Other than a shorter cord, and slightly looser headband they seem to sound nearly as good as my $99 7506's.  I grant you that the high end may be slightly off.  However, not to any significant amount (in my opinion).

 

In the end, if these are counterfiet... then they are better counterfiets than most other $54 pair of headphones I've bought over the years.

 

I  base my "other model" theory on this logic:  At one time I was a Ford salesman.  Ford doesn't sell a full 4-door Ranger pickup in the US.  Safety standards, etc.  But they DO make them.  And sell them in other parts of the world.  So, it's possible to BUY one.   Just as long as you're not buying it from the manufacturer or an authorized US dealer.

 

Thoughts?

 

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Edit:

 

Found this curious.  Here is the product detail page for the MDR7506 on the Sony website:  http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-audio/cat-headphones/product-MDR7506/

 

In a nutshell:

 

 

Headphone Type Dynamic, closed
Magnet Type Neodymium
Driver Size 40.0 mm
Frequency Response 10-20kHz
Impedance 63 Ohms
Sensitivity 106 dB/W/m
Power Handling 1000mW
Plug Type Gold, Stereo Unimatch plug 1/4" and 1/8"
Cord Length 9.8 ft
Weight 8.1 oz
Here is the product detail that the ebay seller provided:
 
Technical Features
Driver Unit Size 40 mm
Frequency Response 10 Hz - 20000 kHz
Impedance 24 ohm
Sensitivity 104 dB
Plug
Plug Type 3.5 mm, 6.35 mm
Plug Material Gold
Other Features
Cable Length 9.8 ft
Dimensions
Weight 7.8 oz

 

Notice the difference in Impedance, Sensitivity, and weight?  Broadcast Supply Worldwide shows their specs  to match closer to the "counterfeiter"s than to what Sony says it should be.

 

BSW:  http://bswusa.com/proditem.asp?item=7506

 

While SameDayMusic.com says the 7506's THEY sell, are more like the SONY description:

 

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--SNYMDR7506

 

___________________

 

So,  my question is this:  Did Sony change the specs of the 7506?  I'm sure the reputable companies (BSW, and SameDayMusic) aren't BOTH right?


Edited by glenspot - 9/23/10 at 9:05am
post #10 of 94

Are mine fake or real? It says ''made in Taiwan''. I have the original bag (or a good copy) and I also think I had plastic around the cable. 

However, the packaging box was messed up but I had no shipping charges so I could have expected ''creative packaging''. 

I just broke the cord by the way (good game) so I hope I didn't mess them up for good.

 

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As you can see it does have a number (upper left of the white part; it is a bit unclear on this photo), is this an important indication? 

 

sony mdr v6 010.JPG

 

EDIT: Personally I think they are fake because I have this USB stick of which the ''protection part'' is partly metal.
If I put it on the middle of the grill it doesn't stick but goes to the right or left.
This is because of the driver at the back end. If it were (real) metal I would assume it would stay in the middle of the grill? 


Edited by latent - 11/8/10 at 11:51am
post #11 of 94
I love threads like this. I learned A LOT! Thank you so
Much.

I have a MDR-7506. I need to look where it's made in. Anyone here has those? Where are yours made?
post #12 of 94

I have everything that points to "authentic"; besides the fact that mine says Made in Thailand.


Edited by K2e2vin - 11/30/10 at 1:16pm
post #13 of 94

Thank you for this excellent comparison.

 

I just received my MDR-V6s, which I bought from one of the Amazon authorized sellers for $65 plus shipping.   Mine seems to be closest to your real version.   The phones seemed to be very well packed.    The cord was packed in plastic with the yellow tape like shown in your picture, though I believe it was only wrapped in one piece of plastic.  I'm questioning whether mine is real, though, because the enclosures seem to be plastic, not metal.   I've seen on Wikipedia and in other places that the enclosures for these phones are supposed to be metal.  I'm curious whether the enclosures on your real ones are plastic or metal.   I'm also curious how you know for sure that the set you have is real.     Thanks.

post #14 of 94

The scary thing is how good the fakes look in comparison to the real ones. 

There are no more dead giveaway fakes.  Used to be that they would misspell words and the design would be off, and physically noticeable.

Not anymore.

 

Don't buy popular makes. 

Makers of fakes will only go after large potential markets.  

Therefore, smaller manufacturers like Beyerdynamic, Ultrasone, etc., won't have any fakes on the market. 

 

If you buy anything on ebay, do not buy from China, Hong Kong, PERIOD. 

I miss my Sony MDR-V900s, and went on there and they are like $30!!!

No way that's legit.  No way.  They look genuine as hell though.

 

If you buy Sony, only get it from an authorized Sony dealer.

Even private sellers in the USA are trying to offload their fakes to some other poor schmuck. 

 

I got a pair BOSE fakes on ebay.  I was thinking man... these sound like crap.  Compared them to my friend's, and I was right.

Emailed seller, got my money back, reported to ebay. 

 

You can't stop these people seriously.

 

Right now, there's this Sony seller selling a bunch of useless toys and trinkets for 5 cents to get his feedback up really high.

And then he's selling a bunch of fake headphones for $30 to make a killing. 

Look at this dude's feedback.  Million transactions for a penny.


Edited by sugarkang - 12/7/10 at 4:11pm
post #15 of 94
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Originally Posted by ksb457 View Post

Thank you for this excellent comparison.

 

I just received my MDR-V6s, which I bought from one of the Amazon authorized sellers for $65 plus shipping.   Mine seems to be closest to your real version.   The phones seemed to be very well packed.    The cord was packed in plastic with the yellow tape like shown in your picture, though I believe it was only wrapped in one piece of plastic.  I'm questioning whether mine is real, though, because the enclosures seem to be plastic, not metal.   I've seen on Wikipedia and in other places that the enclosures for these phones are supposed to be metal.  I'm curious whether the enclosures on your real ones are plastic or metal.   I'm also curious how you know for sure that the set you have is real.     Thanks.


 

It might sound silly, but this should be a dead give-away: Do they have enough clamping force for the cups to make full contact with each other when not folded up? If they do make full contact, they should be real.

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