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post #961 of 1106
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

It's not vacuous at all. Overrated means the general opinion of said headphone, or at least by its fans, is that it is very good and you, the poster in this thread, disagree. It is recognizing that your opinion runs counter to the larger opinion, and if you are so insecure that you get in a twist because of someone calling your precious babies "overrated" then the problem is on your end.

 

A thread of "what headphones don't you like" would be just a thread of people talking about ANY headphones they dislike, from cheap Skullcandy to whatever. That's why this is more interesting, it's people who have an opinion that runs counter to the general one, and it opens up discussion.

 

No one said anyone's opinion is wrong. Settle down. Overrated means your opinion is different from most.

 

What's saddest is listening to people whose egos are so fragile that they force others to scream OPINION OPINION OPINION all over the place as though that wasn't OBVIOUS already. It's a forum. Quite literally everything we say is opinion. That's how "discussion" works. :rolleyes: 

 

Interesting response. For the record I merely meant to challenge the notion that any headphone could possibly be overrated and how anyone could possibly have the authority to say such a thing. I have no horse in this race and I certainly have no emotional attachment to it one way or the other, so I'm not sure who really needs to "settle down". It seems that one who writes "settle down" and accuses people of being insecure with "panties in a twist" is the individual who should take a step back and settle down.

 

For the record, and relevant to my point, there are large swaths of people who enjoy Skullcandy headphones, and like I said, there is a following for pretty much every single headphone that has ever been produced. The distinction between "my opinion" and "this is overrated" is again, I think, vacuous, and merely a vain attempt to argue how large subsections of the population are somehow wrong and misguided and need to be directed towards the supreme enlightenment of "insert opinion here". If anything, the ones who need to do such a thing are the ones with the fragile egos.

post #962 of 1106
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Originally Posted by superlowfi View Post
 

 

Interesting response. For the record I merely meant to challenge the notion that any headphone could possibly be overrated and how anyone could possibly have the authority to say such a thing. I have no horse in this race and I certainly have no emotional attachment to it one way or the other, so I'm not sure who really needs to "settle down". It seems that one who writes "settle down" and accuses people of being insecure with "panties in a twist" is the individual who should take a step back and settle down.

 

For the record, and relevant to my point, there are large swaths of people who enjoy Skullcandy headphones, and like I said, there is a following for pretty much every single headphone that has ever been produced. The distinction between "my opinion" and "this is overrated" is again, I think, vacuous, and merely a vain attempt to argue how large subsections of the population are somehow wrong and misguided and need to be directed towards the supreme enlightenment of "insert opinion here". If anything, the ones who need to do such a thing are the ones with the fragile egos.

 

The problem is that you're insisting people throw all these asterisks and qualifying statements around when those are implicit in literally everything said here. No one is claiming anything objective. That's not possible. It's bleeding obvious that what you say, what I say, and what everyone else says is opinion unless we're showing a graph or chart or some kind.

 

And it's not vacuous, again, because the scope of this thread is to focus on things that are generally well liked, and you're sucking the fun out of it like a vampire by being a big ol' Debbie Downer and basically saying no one has the right to that opinion you are so concerned about preserving.

 

What you're doing is demanding no one ever say "this is good" or "this is bad" because it's just their opinion as if anyone anywhere didn't already realize that. It's needless nannying, like all the posters on this board are little children who can't understand the basics of human interaction. No one needs you to come to the rescue.

 

This is a message board. We discuss opinions. If you dislike the fact that people are discussing opinions without putting pillows all over the floor to make sure all the delicate flowers don't get confused and think we're insulting them... then go into a different thread. This line of discussion has turned a fun chit chat about what we think into a pointless argument about semantics.

 

I'm not going to post again on this particular line of discussion, I've wasted enough time with it already. Cheerio.

post #963 of 1106

Of course my opinion on the Beats line is only from listening to them at sound stations at Best Buy. I have never owned a pair.

 

I do love the way the revised Beats headphones look. They look pretty awesome, I have to admit. 

post #964 of 1106
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Originally Posted by superlowfi View Post

Interesting response. For the record I merely meant to challenge the notion that any headphone could possibly be overrated and how anyone could possibly have the authority to say such a thing. I have no horse in this race and I certainly have no emotional attachment to it one way or the other, so I'm not sure who really needs to "settle down". It seems that one who writes "settle down" and accuses people of being insecure with "panties in a twist" is the individual who should take a step back and settle down.

For the record, and relevant to my point, there are large swaths of people who enjoy Skullcandy headphones, and like I said, there is a following for pretty much every single headphone that has ever been produced. The distinction between "my opinion" and "this is overrated" is again, I think, vacuous, and merely a vain attempt to argue how large subsections of the population are somehow wrong and misguided and need to be directed towards the supreme enlightenment of "insert opinion here". If anything, the ones who need to do such a thing are the ones with the fragile egos.

I follow many brands - variety is the spice of life wink.gif
post #965 of 1106
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Originally Posted by pachoo5 View Post
 

Of course my opinion on the Beats line is only from listening to them at sound stations at Best Buy. I have never owned a pair.

 

I do love the way the revised Beats headphones look. They look pretty awesome, I have to admit. 

 

For the record.

 

Best Buy sound stations are TERRRRRRIBLE. I've heard so many where one side is shorted out, there's tons of line noise, volume is low for some reason, just ugh. Brookstone, same deal. 

 

Some sound okay when you listen to the stupid "pick a song" buttons, but I've never heard a good one that lets you plug your own source in which, to me, defeats the whole purpose of test driving headphones. I don't care how it sounds listening to a commercial or Miley Cyrus. :mad:

post #966 of 1106
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

The problem is that you're insisting people throw all these asterisks and qualifying statements around when those are implicit in literally everything said here. No one is claiming anything objective. That's not possible. It's bleeding obvious that what you say, what I say, and what everyone else says is opinion unless we're showing a graph or chart or some kind.

 

And it's not vacuous, again, because the scope of this thread is to focus on things that are generally well liked, and you're sucking the fun out of it like a vampire by being a big ol' Debbie Downer and basically saying no one has the right to that opinion you are so concerned about preserving.

 

What you're doing is demanding no one ever say "this is good" or "this is bad" because it's just their opinion as if anyone anywhere didn't already realize that. It's needless nannying, like all the posters on this board are little children who can't understand the basics of human interaction. No one needs you to come to the rescue.

 

This is a message board. We discuss opinions. If you dislike the fact that people are discussing opinions without putting pillows all over the floor to make sure all the delicate flowers don't get confused and think we're insulting them... then go into a different thread. This line of discussion has turned a fun chit chat about what we think into a pointless argument about semantics.

 

I'm not going to post again on this particular line of discussion, I've wasted enough time with it already. Cheerio.

 

Again you seem to think I am somehow offended or aghast at people sharing their opinion. I am not. My comment was simply a perspective on the nature of calling a headphone "overrated" and what that really means. It was more of a philosophical discussion point.

 

At the end of the day, the thread should be called "Headphones I don't like/respect" and it seems we ultimately agree with that (from a semantic level). Sorry for "wasting" your time on such a semantic point but no one invited you to write so much on the topic and I would be just as happy if my comment was simply forgotten and not responded too.

 

In the future, try to respond to the posts that interest you - it may help with your blood pressure  ;)

post #967 of 1106
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Originally Posted by pachoo5 View Post

Of course my opinion on the Beats line is only from listening to them at sound stations at Best Buy. I have never owned a pair.

I do love the way the revised Beats headphones look. They look pretty awesome, I have to admit. 

^ This is good wink.gif and as a beats aficionado, I commend your comment with the highest praise biggrin.gif

May Dre Beats be with you......

I'll say no more other than "solo2" wink.gif
Edited by cb3723 - 6/13/14 at 2:18pm
post #968 of 1106
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

For the record.

Best Buy sound stations are TERRRRRRIBLE. I've heard so many where one side is shorted out, there's tons of line noise, volume is low for some reason, just ugh. Brookstone, same deal. 

Some sound okay when you listen to the stupid "pick a song" buttons, but I've never heard a good one that lets you plug your own source in which, to me, defeats the whole purpose of test driving headphones. I don't care how it sounds listening to a commercial or Miley Cyrus. mad.gif

Yeah, it's pretty brutal how in store demo cans get abused - I tried 5 in a row and only one of them actually worked, two only had sound coming from one earcup and the other two had a loud buzzing noise overriding the music played through them.

If anything this discourages potential customers from buying - quite the opposite result from intended purpose confused_face_2.gif
post #969 of 1106
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


Yeah, it's pretty brutal how in store demo cans get abused - I tried 5 in a row and only one of them actually worked, two only had sound coming from one earcup and the other two had a loud buzzing noise overriding the music played through them.

If anything this discourages potential customers from buying - quite the opposite result from intended purpose confused_face_2.gif

 

Which does tell you a lot about the people who try them out on that thing and then buy the headphones, doesn't it. o_O

post #970 of 1106
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

Which does tell you a lot about the people who try them out on that thing and then buy the headphones, doesn't it. o_O

LoL biggrin.gif

I've only ever bought one pair of cans from being wowed from trying a demo model out on display - Apple store with the Bose QuietComfort15's - largely due to their amazing active noise cancellation that puts the world on mute.

Another thing I've noticed is if you go into an Apple store, all the demo cans work perfectly compared to Best Buy equivalent stores here in UK , the demos are largely wrecked! There may be a message of society as general in that somewhere....or maybe not? blink.gif
Edited by cb3723 - 6/13/14 at 2:53pm
post #971 of 1106

With the exception of my SE535s that I got at AC Gears in NYC (seriously, awesome place), every pair of headphones I bought was effectively blind. There's really no way to know unless you can hear it DIRECTLY plugged into your own source and VERY few places allow that.

post #972 of 1106
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

With the exception of my SE535s that I got at AC Gears in NYC (seriously, awesome place), every pair of headphones I bought was effectively blind. There's really no way to know unless you can hear it DIRECTLY plugged into your own source and VERY few places allow that.

Good point especially true for summit-fi cans unless you've a dealer direct on your doorstep, otherwise it's a travel.

By the way, which model of Grado's has your attention?

Amazon UK are selling the RS1i at a decent discount at the min - I saw a post made in one of the Grado threads yesterday that had a screen shot of the deal:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/RS1i-Reference-Series-Backed-Headphones/dp/B00076VEG6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402696739&sr=8-1&keywords=Rs1i

http://www.tonepublications.com/review/grado-rs1i-headphones/
Edited by cb3723 - 6/13/14 at 3:09pm
post #973 of 1106
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

With the exception of my SE535s that I got at AC Gears in NYC (seriously, awesome place), every pair of headphones I bought was effectively blind. There's really no way to know unless you can hear it DIRECTLY plugged into your own source and VERY few places allow that.

That's not true. I have come across many stores - even Best Buy and RadioShack - that let you do that, as well as audiophile stores. Where are you shopping that doesn't allow this? Only stores I know that don't are Kroger subsidiaries, Target, and Walmart off the top of my head.

Granted, you won't find Audeze at RadioShack, but you will at a local audiophile retailer.
Edited by Dragonzeanse - 6/13/14 at 3:41pm
post #974 of 1106
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

Plenty of headphones I like are overrated. The Mikros 90 is a good example. It's a fine product and well worth $100, but the fanaticism around it is crazy balls. They ain't THAT good.

Agreed. No piece of audio equipment is so good that it's worth forming lynch mobs over. The fanboyism behind those headphones is nothing short of appalling, and that's to say nothing of the quality of the headphones to begin with.

post #975 of 1106
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Originally Posted by Dragonzeanse View Post


That's not true. I have come across many stores - even Best Buy and RadioShack - that let you do that, as well as audiophile stores. Where are you shopping that doesn't allow this? Only stores I know that don't are Kroger subsidiaries, Target, and Walmart off the top of my head.

Granted, you won't find Audeze at RadioShack, but you will at a local audiophile retailer.

 

Best Buy and Brookstone, multiple of them, spring to mind. Yes, you can plug your own source in, but it's through a hardware unit in the display, it's not a straight single cable pipe from your device to the headphones. Makes a BIIIIIIG difference. 

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