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Edited by retskrad - 11/24/15 at 7:35pm
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 Seems like you want this to be a circle-jerk thread. People looking to buy an expensive headphone come here and see all good things, thats a skewed perception of reality.

 

I never said the lcd-2 bad a bad headphone, I just stated that the reputation of them being dark is not correct anymore after the fazor change. 

 

Edited by retskrad - 11/24/15 at 7:36pm
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Dynamics usually have better resolution that planars can't achieve. My HD650 has shockingly good resolution and surpasses the LCD-2F. Planars have speed and bass extension. The speed is perceived as resolution, but it's not.
Edited by hodgjy - 11/24/15 at 7:52pm
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What is resolution? Do you mean like planar sound is like anti-aliasing of an image, and the dynamic sound is grainy and rougher, which is more true to the source?

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Resolution to me means how many details are portrayed. 

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I've been running an EQ lately that applies -2 dB around 10.5 KHz (pretty narrow band around it, with the effect mostly ending around 9 - 12 KHz) and it removes most of the little bit of glare/harshness that's normally present and makes cymbals sound a little more natural. Try it out, I doubt most people would dislike it. That's based on the graph I got of mine though, others could be different. While at it, you can add 1-2 dB at 4 KHz (ending around 3 and 5 KHz) to fill in a dip there, but I find that this change isn't as useful.

 

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Honestly, the major thing $1000+ headphones have over mid-fi ones like the hd650 is hearing the artist breathing, or other miniscule sounds in the background like noise, which doesnt do anything for you as a consumer. It might be useful for the the sound engineer. You are basically paying like 3x the price of mid-fi to hear redundant sounds in the recording, like hiss.

 

The best mid-fi headphone I've heard is HD600 and I think the LCD-2F is quite a bit better than it, with the difference being not nearly as minor as you say. The most obvious differences are that the bass is much better and more extended, and the sound is less harsh overall. It just sounds more natural overall too.


Edited by Zenja - 11/24/15 at 8:47pm
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Dynamics usually have better resolution that planars can't achieve. My HD650 has shockingly good resolution and surpasses the LCD-2F. Planars have speed and bass extension. The speed is perceived as resolution, but it's not.

This is so obviously a false blanket statement, so you are either trolling or are woefully ill-informed my friend. I do not know how speed and resolution are somehow completely different things. Please elaborate on what this "speed" is.


Edited by Ampeezy - 11/25/15 at 12:38am
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Resolution to me means how many details are portrayed. 

I think you make a confusion between brightness and resolution.

Technically, resolution is more related to the audio format (16/44, 24/96, ...).

And if we talk about your definition, details of the LCD's bass are much better than any moving coil hp I heard.

Speed will give you more details without the need to be bright. that's why the LCD (particularly pre fazer) sound very natural.

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Just ordered the B-Stock LCD-2 direct from Audeze. Can't wait to compare it with my modded HE-400S. :beerchug:

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This is so obviously a false blanket statement, so you are either trolling or are woefully ill-informed my friend. I do not know how speed and resolution are somehow completely different things. Please elaborate on what this "speed" is.

The only possibility I see, is a fast can would only require a strong impulse response, and a resolving one would have a clean impulse response with proper damping and response across the whole audio band. The fast can could have nasty ringing, the resolving one would be clean and sharp.

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The only possibility I see, is a fast can would only require a strong impulse response, and a resolving one would have a clean impulse response with proper damping and response across the whole audio band. The fast can could have nasty ringing, the resolving one would be clean and sharp.

I see what you mean and this makes sense, although i would say some people refer to fast cans as those that have both a strong impulse control as well as proper damping. So i guess it depends on what you define what a fast can to be no? If i listened to a can with improper damping but strong impulse response i would personally not call it a fast phone. I define a headphones speed as a combination of both its response and damping

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I find the lcd-2 rev 1 sometimes on the bright side, I dont even want to hear how bright the lcd-2 fazor is.

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I find the lcd-2 rev 1 sometimes on the bright side, I dont even want to hear how bright the lcd-2 fazor is.

Can you tell me your listening level?

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If you guys want to hear a bright headphone, try the DT-990 sometime. That treble can fry an egg.

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Realized that I should have posted here in the impression thread instead of where is, any help to links or comments is appreciated, TIA:

 

 

Had my LCD 2.2 for almost 3 years now and just recently noticing more of a bass roll-off with the same music and equipment that once produced flat down to 20hz response. Seems as if the response is not as low as before and rolls off almost as if an octave & 1/2 earlier say around 50-60hz instead of 20hz.

 

Although I don't have any test equipment to confirm roll-off, I decided to change the pads into the LCD 3 pads which are softer to see if it was the seal not conforming.  Unfortunately, didn't notice any difference in bass response - same as in the original pads.

 

Any of you experience this problem? or know of any driver related issues that may affect bass response? 

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