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Originally Posted by Falkirk Bairn View Post

Hi everyone

 

I got my new LCD-2 revision 2's 23 February 2012.  My previous headphones were Grado 325is, which are VERY bright.  In comparison I find the Audeze's very, very dark with noticeable lack of treble.  I would describe them as sometimes claustrophobic, a boxed in kind of sound, I am hoping this is because I am used to the Grado sound and I will get used to my LCD's.  In all other areas I find my LCD's wonderful, astonishing bass and imaging, etc.  

 

I am hoping my ears will get used to them, I want so much to love them.  Did this happen to you?  What do you think?

 

Congrats on your LCD-2 and welcome to Head-fi!

 

Give yourself time to adjust, as you said the 325i is quite bright even for a Grado, and the tilted-up treble can give the impression of a larger soundstage. The rev.2 is the brightest out of all the LCD-2/3's so you should be okay if you stick with it but that's still a pretty radical transition. While you adjust your perception don't listen to the Grados and when you do finally go back to them they will be way too bright. Of course YMMV but yours is a pretty normal reaction for someone coming from the 325i.


Edited by grokit - 2/28/12 at 11:58am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkirk Bairn View Post

Hi everyone

 

I got my new LCD-2 revision 2's 23 February 2012.  My previous headphones were Grado 325is, which are VERY bright.  In comparison I find the Audeze's very, very dark with noticeable lack of treble.  I would describe them as sometimes claustrophobic, a boxed in kind of sound, I am hoping this is because I am used to the Grado sound and I will get used to my LCD's.  In all other areas I find my LCD's wonderful, astonishing bass and imaging, etc.  

 

I am hoping my ears will get used to them, I want so much to love them.  Did this happen to you?  What do you think?

I have to think that it may be your amplification, not fully driving the LCDs to their potential
 

 

post #558 of 3579

 

A brighter amp (maybe more power?) and a brighter source might help you

 

Anyway - I think you will adapt, if you love everything else about the LCD's... From Grado to LCD-2 is quite a leap in terms of brightness. But the LCD-2 doesn't hide the treble, i just doesn't exaggerate it, but the FR graphs are surely tilting downwards at the top end ;). Anyway - I loved the 325i and auditioned it thoruoghly several times, but just couldn't stand the brightness (it was painful to me) - and now I really love the LCD-2. But if you want a brighter version of the LCD-2 - go for the HE-500 :) I have both, and the Hifiman doesn't stand back for the LCD-2. But both has its charm :) I have the LCD-2 rev.1 by the way FWIR, the rev.2 is a little brighter. 

 

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkirk Bairn View Post

Hi everyone

 

I got my new LCD-2 revision 2's 23 February 2012.  My previous headphones were Grado 325is, which are VERY bright.  In comparison I find the Audeze's very, very dark with noticeable lack of treble.  I would describe them as sometimes claustrophobic, a boxed in kind of sound, I am hoping this is because I am used to the Grado sound and I will get used to my LCD's.  In all other areas I find my LCD's wonderful, astonishing bass and imaging, etc.  

 

I am hoping my ears will get used to them, I want so much to love them.  Did this happen to you?  What do you think?



 


Edited by ardilla - 2/28/12 at 4:38pm
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Thanks for your reply folks.  They are getting slightly better for me already.  The most noticeable thing so far is that every album seems to sound remixed, with the balance and placement of the instruments being different from what I am used to.  This can be a little disorienting at first.  But on certain recordings when everything is right my LCD-2's sound astonishingly good :)

 

I am using this amp http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/high-spec-Mosfet-headphone-amplifier-V2-1-/140692298559?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Amplifiers&hash=item20c1ea1b3f#ht_8202wt_1344   I wanted to see if there was an audible benefit to a dual-mono amp.

 

Yes it is very inexpensive, but, at least to my ears, it sounds very good indeed, a good balanced sound with enough power to drive my LCD's as loud as I want at only 40% of it's capability.  The builder says it outputs 1 watt at 32 ohms, so I guess it's going to be a little less at 50 ohms.  I am saving up for something much better but that won't be for a good while yet.

 

thanks

 

Greetings from Scotland

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Update:  had the LCD-2's a couple of weeks now and the sound more balanced to my ears now.  I can hear more treble than I did before.  I guess the lesson here is that your brain compensates over time to accommodate the sound, especially if they cost a lot :) !!!  psychoacoustics?  

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It's the most underestimated resource n forums like this ;)
 

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Originally Posted by Falkirk Bairn View Post
............ psychoacoustics?  


 

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or should that be psycho-economics !!!!   hahaha

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You hear what you hear and pay what you pay. 

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man I was loving the hell out of my sm3 but the right channel kept cutting out, the problem was the right channel wire right the the one wire becomes two.

 

unfortunely I sent it to their office in France as the authorized guy I bought it from couldn't deal with it, this was a month ago and they still haven't received it.

I got he customs form number and will try to followup with the post office to see if the package is in the US or France.

 

Man I hope Im not going to be out $3-400..I think in the future I will avoid international shipping and stick with something in the continental US.

post #565 of 3579

Wrong thread eantala.

 

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man I was loving the hell out of my sm3

 

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Just had one of those wow moments and had to share.

 

I've had my LCD-2 Rev1 w/ Silver Dragon and Burson HA-160D since the first run of the final Rev1 for those around back then :p  I loved the combo for such a long time but overtime, just like a sports car, it got slow.  So I went on the hunt for a refresh.  Brought in the Rev2, a HeadAmp GS-1, a Wyred DAC-2 and went to town with my usual A/B procedure.

 

Long story short... I still think the Rev1 is the better of the two.  And the Burson, as good as it is, just couldn't approach the Wyred/HeadAmp combo.  To be fair the prices are not similar but one can always hope ;)  Other revelation... LCD-2 Rev1 and Rev2 sound better, to me, on this rig, with a copper cord :O

 

As to the major difference I hear between the Rev1 and Rev2...  The Rev1 has laser precision imaging, instruments are weightier, fuller but take up less space.  Also the impact point is down lower in frequency.  On the other side, the Rev2 is less weighty, more airy and the staging is diffused.  Instruments take up more space, creating a larger stage.  Its impact point is higher in frequency as well.  Pick your poison.  The Rev1 can lack the proper dryness of the snare or shimmer of the cymbals but the Rev2 can sound shouty and can sound like a wall of sound on busy passages.

 

Comfort wise its a toss up.  The Rev1 is heavier, the foam headband is more comfortable but can pull and for me the ear pads are more "correct".  The Rev2 is lighter, the leather headband is less form fitting but freely slides as you turn your head.  The new pads however are shaped in a way that on my head they push the front into my head while the back is pulling away.  No loss of seal, just not the "correct" overall pressure of the Rev1.  Glad I have a spare Rev1 set downstairs :D

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Near a week later... things are changing.

 

I'm going to assume both the GS-1 and Rev2 were more new than used and the Wyred being new has broken in some.  I also gave up on the Rev2 comfort level increasing without help so I put them through the "spread over my Tannoy" stretching exercise and massaged the back of the pads some.  End of the day I get a better seal and less forward pressure.  I'll have to run another A/B day but things are looking up for the Rev2.  Or it could well be the GS-1 or Wyred breaking in, who knows ;)

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Loves these LCD-2 Rev 1s...amazing!!!

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Rev. 1 FTW !!!


 

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Loves these LCD-2 Rev 1s...amazing!!!



 

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My rev.1 was starting to sound a bit flat in comparison to the HD 800 and I wasn't reaching for it at all frown.gif

Then I changed rectifier tubes in my amp and my rev.1 has new lifebeerchug.gif!

 

I am now reaching for the rev.1 just as often and have a whole new appreciation for it tongue.gif

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