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post #496 of 9914

Yes, with a touch of show-of / ironic. smily_headphones1.gif

post #497 of 9914
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Originally Posted by ddoyle777 View Post

Frank,

 

I agree - I read the Cello Suites on vacation a couple of years ago while listening to Casals.  It was a very enjoyable experience.  Since then I've added a few sets of the Suites to my collection.  If I want power I listen to Zuill Bailey on Telarc, if I want to meditate - It's Isserlis on Hyperion.  Many, many good recordings here.  I've got the Tureck WTC, it hasn't impressed me too much yet, but I've only listened a few times.  I guess I will pull it back into the rotation. I'll also check out Frank's Beethoven cycle - I'm not at all familiar with that.  

 

The Lyr should be in the mail tomorrow.  I've decided to reread the tube rolling threads.  It appears you can spend almost as much on new tubes as the Lyr costs itself!  I've also got the Bifrost on order.   I hope I like the products as much as I like the company.

 

I'm settling in with the LCD-2s, If I believed in break in I'd say that they were doing fine, but I actually think that I'm paying better attention to what they do well and keep being pleased by the power of these phones.  Nothing laid back at all with them.  One thing a good headphone will do is help you discover your music collection all over again.  It's almost (almost!) worth the price of admission to feel like I have a new lease on the 1607 albums in my collection.  I still keep adding stuff, but the old gems take a new shine with new phones.  

 

Enjoy,

 

Dave




Hey Dave,  thanks!  You've given me a couple more to track down.  I too like the Isserlis/Hyperion interpretation, but I don't know the Zuill Bailey.  I've been disappointed with the Yo-yo Ma cello suites (expected too much, I think).  My Turek WTC is only excerpts as part of a Bach Festival, and it's a mono recording.  I'll have to check the label.  But it's nice.

 

I agree that the LCD-2's are nicely revealing of musical nuance.  I especially enjoy them for chamber music.  However, I still prefer my speaker rig for large-scale stuff like Mahler, Dvorak or Prokofiev.  The majority of my music collection is on vinyl.  I only have about 600 CD's that are classical, and the remaining 800 or so CDs are eclectic stuff, from roots music, to indie, but mostly acoustic.  At the moment, while typing, I'm listening to Prscilla Ahn's new album.  Haven't warmed up to it yet, but love her voice!

 

Have you experimented much yet with Hi-Rez downloads?  I'm finding there are a number of symphony orchestras who are selling downloads of recent concerts in HD, but haven't yet followed up to see how the SQ is.  LCD-2's should be great for that format!

 

Best,

 

Frank

post #498 of 9914
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Originally Posted by JIGF View Post

 

 

Yeah, I have read something like that before in another thread, maybe it was from you too.

 

This is an LS 11.
 

 

 

 

Very cool.  You must be one of them gol-durn bootleggers, eh?  etysmile.gif
 

 

post #499 of 9914
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Originally Posted by bcg27 View Post

Are you saying a sine wave with an amplitude of 16 is not 32 peak to peak?

The sine wave amplitude was stated as 32 volts peak to peak, not 16 volts peak to peak.
 

I realize, once again, that I have taken this thread off course.  Sorry for that.  Please just PM me if you have questions or issues about the power/p-p/RMS things we've discussed.


Edited by kwkarth - 7/15/11 at 8:35am
post #500 of 9914

So what is the exact difference between the Rev1 and Rev2? From what I understand the rev1 had slightly recessed highs and slightly veiled mids and treble?

With rev2 the treble is extended & the slight veil and creaminess are not as apparent. (I can't remember who said this on here)

post #501 of 9914
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Originally Posted by bcg27 View Post

Assuming we are talking about a periodic sine wave across one period here:

Vrms.png

 


BCG27 is correct.  I was suffering from a short in my headset.  (ear to ear)

I apologize for my brain fart.

 

post #502 of 9914
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Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post

So what is the exact difference between the Rev1 and Rev2? From what I understand the rev1 had slightly recessed highs and slightly veiled mids and treble?

With rev2 the treble is extended & the slight veil and creaminess are not as apparent. (I can't remember who said this on here)


Your descriptive terms apply, by definition, to frequency & amplitude.  Audeze themselves, their FR graphs and concomitant manilla envelopes all testify to the fact that the differences between rev1 and rev2 do NOT have to do with frequency response amplitude.  The differences have to do principally with driver diaphragm mass, and therefore rise time and square wave response.

 


Edited by kwkarth - 7/16/11 at 12:32am
post #503 of 9914

Well guys, I'm a new member to the LCD-2 club. Wanted to post some pics here in honor of these gloriously beautiful and sonically delightful phones. Senn HD 580s can be seen in the background. LCD-2s and the Isabellina LFP-V HPA sure are making some music.

 

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy246/adamaley/LCD-2%20joins%20the%20family/P1070369.jpg

 

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy246/adamaley/LCD-2%20joins%20the%20family/P1070368.jpg

 

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy246/adamaley/LCD-2%20joins%20the%20family/P1070372.jpg

 

Impressions will be forthcoming.

Ps: Can't get the images to show. I probably don't have enough posts.


Edited by adamaley - 7/15/11 at 11:18pm
post #504 of 9914
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Originally Posted by adamaley View Post

Well guys, I'm a new member to the LCD-2 club. Wanted to post some pics here in honor of these gloriously beautiful and sonically delightful phones. Senn HD 580s can be seen in the background. LCD-2s and the Isabellina LFP-V HPA sure are making some music.

 

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy246/adamaley/LCD-2%20joins%20the%20family/P1070369.jpg

 

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy246/adamaley/LCD-2%20joins%20the%20family/P1070368.jpg

 

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy246/adamaley/LCD-2%20joins%20the%20family/P1070372.jpg

 

Impressions will be forthcoming.

Ps: Can't get the images to show. I probably don't have enough posts.




Nice

post #505 of 9914

Exact same setup as I have had for a year now... Haven't even thought of trying anything else!

post #506 of 9914
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Originally Posted by Paganini Alfredo View Post

Exact same setup as I have had for a year now... Haven't even thought of trying anything else!



Nice to know this setup has provided longevity. I myself have had at least two years with Red Wine Audio components in a speaker setup. Any worries I had about the Isabellina HPA working in a headphone setup are slowly ebbing away as it breaks in. Question to you, Paganini. What would you recommend I upgrade first, the stock cable or the tube in the Isabellina? I have read exhaustively on the benefits of both, but want to go for the most optimal upgrade to start with. Obviously, I will let everything settle in before I make any changes.


Edited by adamaley - 7/16/11 at 9:08am
post #507 of 9914
Thread Starter 

Do they graph the rise time and square wave response now? I'd like to see a picture of that.
 

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Originally Posted by kwkarth View Post




Your descriptive terms apply, by definition, to frequency & amplitude.  Audeze themselves, their FR graphs and concomitant manilla envelopes all testify to the fact that the differences between rev1 and rev2 do NOT have to do with frequency response amplitude.  The differences have to do principally with driver diaphragm mass, and therefore rise time and square wave response.

 



 

post #508 of 9914
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Originally Posted by DefectiveAudioComponent View Post

Do they graph the rise time and square wave response now? I'd like to see a picture of that.


Tyll and headroom publish graphs of square wave/rise time, yes.  Nobody regularly provides waterfall plots.  The only waterfall plots I've seen for the LCD-2 were from Audeze themselves for the v1's.

 

post #509 of 9914

 

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Nice to know this setup has provided longevity. I myself have had at least two years with Red Wine Audio components in a speaker setup. Any worries I had about the Isabellina HPA working in a headphone setup are slowly ebbing away as it breaks in. Question to you, Paganini. What would you recommend I upgrade first, the stock cable or the tube in the Isabellina? I have read exhaustively on the benefits of both, but want to go for the most optimal upgrade to start with. Obviously, I will let everything settle in before I make any changes.

I would upgrade the tube. The tube will always make more a difference than a cable. People agree that tubes make changes, that is not always the case with the cable. I am not trying to start a debate here, just answering his question.

post #510 of 9914
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Originally Posted by KingStyles View Post

 

I would upgrade the tube. The tube will always make more a difference than a cable. People agree that tubes make changes, that is not always the case with the cable. I am not trying to start a debate here, just answering his question.


I second upgrade the tube first then if you are not satisfied get a cable
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