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post #271 of 10571

Ofc they do, head-fi is basically their shop.

post #272 of 10571

Over the past few weeks quite a few slightly used LCD-2s have come up for sale, offered by people who bought, listened, and decided the purchase did not measure up to what they were expecting based on all the glowingly positive reviews.

 

What I've noticed is that in nearly 100% of these cases, the LCDs offered for sale come with only the single ended cable (sometimes stock, sometimes after-market). It is very very rare to see a pair offered by a seller that has used them with a balanced cable, and especially a balanced after market cable.

 

Based on my own experiences, I will make the following suggestion: If you find yourself contemplating the sale of your recently-acquired LCD-2s, don't make the decision without first trying them with a balanced amp and a good after-market balanced cable. I realize that not everyone has a balanced amp or wants to face the need to lay out more cash for a balanced amp in the event that it does sound better; I also realize that many single ended amps have excellent sound, but the difference in my case was such that I swung from having nearly decided to sell them, to leaving instructions that I am to be buried with the LCD-2s clamped to my ears.

 

In my case, going to balanced while still using the original cable was a big step in the right direction; the real deal-maker however, the one that brought the LCDs to life, came with the cable upgrade.

 

Some details of my early experiences linked below :

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/495631/amp-recommendations-for-audeze-lcd-2/1425#post_7232898

 

post #273 of 10571

That makes sense Jimmy-Jack as with a balanced setup you have a better chance of them being properly driven and thus taking them with you to the after-life.

post #274 of 10571

Jimmy-Jack: You've discovered what many people who have been here years seem to have failed to realise, that it's the entire rig that makes an experience, not just the headphones.

post #275 of 10571
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Jimmy-Jack: You've discovered what many people who have been here years seem to have failed to realise, that it's the entire rig that makes an experience, not just the headphones.



Yep yep, what he says.

post #276 of 10571

Jimmy-Jack, I got my "used less than a week" pair because the previous owner had problems with their weight not the sound.

post #277 of 10571

So a common saying I hear regarding orthos of having "mids to die for" is somewhat of an exaggeration, not even worth a sore neck :P

 

I have finalised my playback chain and have been getting into music heaps lately, have been downloading a truckload of MP3s from the internet :P They sound higher resolution on the LCD2s than 24/96 on my HD650/K701, that is why...and to think that when I only had the HD650/K701 I refused to play anything less than lossless.  Now I think that was just plain stupidity, because neither can is able to fully resolve the details present on a well coded MP3.

 

Of course IMO Lossless is still better than MP3...especially noticeable with the LCD2.  Anyone else have their beliefs challenged by these cans?

 

A thought does come to me though, oddly, I seem to prefer the treble balance of my K701s overall.  The LCD2 treble is certainly more transparent, but I like how the K701 smooths over imperfections and rolls of at the extreme.  I think the K701 treble is darker than the HD650 and LCD2.

post #278 of 10571
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-Jack View Post

Over the past few weeks quite a few slightly used LCD-2s have come up for sale, offered by people who bought, listened, and decided the purchase did not measure up to what they were expecting based on all the glowingly positive reviews.

 

What I've noticed is that in nearly 100% of these cases, the LCDs offered for sale come with only the single ended cable (sometimes stock, sometimes after-market). It is very very rare to see a pair offered by a seller that has used them with a balanced cable, and especially a balanced after market cable.

 

Based on my own experiences, I will make the following suggestion: If you find yourself contemplating the sale of your recently-acquired LCD-2s, don't make the decision without first trying them with a balanced amp and a good after-market balanced cable. I realize that not everyone has a balanced amp or wants to face the need to lay out more cash for a balanced amp in the event that it does sound better; I also realize that many single ended amps have excellent sound, but the difference in my case was such that I swung from having nearly decided to sell them, to leaving instructions that I am to be buried with the LCD-2s clamped to my ears.

 

In my case, going to balanced while still using the original cable was a big step in the right direction; the real deal-maker however, the one that brought the LCDs to life, came with the cable upgrade.

 

Some details of my early experiences linked below :

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/495631/amp-recommendations-for-audeze-lcd-2/1425#post_7232898

 


I agree, the entire rig is important, and not just the phones.  I said something similar in another LCD-2 thread - http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/496130/audeze-lcd2-vs-sennheiser-hd800/705#post_7269110

 

Since then I've found the DACmini to work best in my home with the LCD-2, and I have a balanced cable on the way to try the LCD-2 with some of my balanced amps.

post #279 of 10571

 

Er...come again?

 

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 I think the K701 treble is darker than the HD650 and LCD2.

post #280 of 10571
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Er...come again?

 


 


Overall the K701 is brighter than the HD650...but if we asses only at the treble, say 8khz and up...the K701 rolls off before the HD650 and LCD2.  The K701 is very lean to my ears...more lean than it is bright, IMO.

post #281 of 10571

I would call the K701 smooth as well as lean. They do scale up nicely with good amplification, but they don't have the most exciting or musical presentation. Interesting that you think the HD650 has better treble extension, I would not have thought that myself. I have not spent much time with the HD650; perhaps their warmth distracted me from their treble abilities.

post #282 of 10571

 

Bit of a toss-up, I'd say.

 

 

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post #283 of 10571
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Bit of a toss-up, I'd say.

 

 

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Those look very similar in shape.
 

post #284 of 10571

Will be hopefully joining the appreciation in 2 weeks when mine arrive. Excited! If not, off to the RS1 and mapletree appreciation threads I go.

post #285 of 10571
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Those look very similar in shape.
 



I did own both a few years back at the same time and two totally different headphones. The were like The Odd Couple of the last generation of "flagship" headphones.

 

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