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post #241 of 10409

Is it true that these weight 550 gram ??

It is the very heavy weight that concerns me

post #242 of 10409
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Originally Posted by Greeni View Post

Is it true that these weight 550 gram ??

It is the very heavy weight that concerns me



Check up the LCD-2 thread. I haven´t measured the weight but yes I don´t doubt they are 550g.

 

Lovely headphones though constant FOTM for me ;)

post #243 of 10409

Heh...flavor of the year so far for me.  wink.gif

post #244 of 10409
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Is it true that these weight 550 gram ??

It is the very heavy weight that concerns me



Yes.

"Weight: 550 g, without cable"

 

Source: http://wiki.faust3d.com/wiki//index.php?title=Audeze_LCD-2

post #245 of 10409

I finally wrote my little piece on the LCD-2 for my blog. Just thought I'd share here as well.

 

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LCD-2
 
Back in June at CanJam 2010, I had the opportunity to try out the LCD-2, a new open-backed, orthodynamic headphone from Audez'e. (The name is pronounced like "odyssey".) At his demo table, I met co-founder Alex Rosson and learned that not only is he the dnb-head behind all the drum 'n bass on the demo iPad, but his wife is Reid Speed, a dnb DJ I have great respect for! It was very cool meeting him.
 
When I switched between Alex's LCD-2 and my own Edition 8 out of the Woo tube amp on the his table (a WA6), it became immediately apparent that the LCD-2 was showing me much deeper into the recording. The Edition 8 has a warm, fun, and punchy sound that should be forgiving of the recording. It rounds over some edges, making most material sound good. Great even, if you're into that flavor. But the LCD-2, by contrast, is like a squeeky-clean window, giving an extremely detailed view into the recording. I knew right away that the LCD-2 was a special headphone.
 
The LCD-2 is a beauty. The outer rims of the cups are Caribbean Rosewood, and some treatment oil is included to preserve the wood. The cups are quite large, accommodating even the largest of ears, and the clamping force is fair. Also, some fairly heavy driver magnets mean the LCD-2 can do amazing things out of weak sources such as an MP3 player headphone out, but it comes at a cost -- the headphones are a bit on the heavy side. I wouldn't say the LCD-2 is necessarily an uncomfortable headphone to wear, but there's no doubt they want you to know they're on your head.
 
The orthodynamic driver in these headphones is quite different from your average dynamic cone driver. It is comprised of a very thin diaphragm with a flat voice coil embedded onto it through which current is applied. The advantage of this type of driver is primarily the speed with which it moves and thus the detail or clarity that can be heard.
 
I've primarily listened to the LCD-2 out of two rigs. My HeadRoom Ultra Micro DAC and ALO Rx amp make a really excellent transportable stack, and they do not let me down with the LCD-2. The Rx has incredible power for its size that really brings out what the LCD-2 has to offer. When I plugged them into my RudiStor RPX-33 (fed by PSAudio DL III), I feel I'm really squeezing the headphones for all they've got. Soundstage, detail, and authority come right alive, and I just want to turn up the volume. The sound is immensely clean and refined; I can hear everything in the recording with amazing clarity.
 
When I switch to the Sennheiser HD600, I feel I get an extra dose of the trebles at the cost of a little of bass. After a quick and casual listen, my brother actually preferred the HD600, but I think this is mainly due to the increase in treble giving an illusion of more detail and "hifi-ness". If I listen to a good recording (that hasn't been abused in the studio) and turn up the volume, I get detail, frequency response, and a lack of distortion that is simply breathtaking.
 
A printed frequency response graph of each headphone is included from Audez'e, and I think it's pretty obvious why. Each pair's graph is very similar, showing Audez'e has a well-controlled manufacturing process. Also, apart from the high frequencies (which are very difficult to maintain a flat response for), the graphs are nearly ruler-flat all the way down to 5 Hz. So while you won't find the accentuated bass that is common in many mainstream headphones, you WILL find an extremely neutral sound signature. No frequency range really stands out too much, and that's exactly what they're designed to do -- produce a really neutral and balanced sound.
 
I think this very neutral sound signature is really the Achilles' heel of the LCD-2. Many will find the sound signature uninteresting because they don't get "sparkly treble" or "phat bass" like you can get from even other monitoring or audiophile headphones. Instead, the extremely neutral sound of the LCD-2 mostly seems to "wow" its listener with detail, tone, and mega low distortion. I mean yes, the bass is deep and textured and the highs sweet and extended, but no range really calls attention.
 
As a final note, I must mention that the stock cable on these headphones is no good. Just because the headphone is a bit on the cumbersome side does not mean that the cable needs to be, but the one they ship with these headphones is just flawed. The wire from the Y-split to the ear cups has a sort of plastic mesh sheathing that easily and often rubs against itself, causing the very worst kind of microphonics; the sound just digs into your brain. The cable is stiff, too. Heck, it's literally labeled "speaker cable" right on the covering! It sucks to admit it for this headphone, but it was worth replacing the cable. (And I'm not one to speak critically of cables usually.)
 
But now that I've got a few months' experience with the LCD-2, I must say that I'm overall very pleased with it. To me, it does everything very well, but nothing overdone, and it continues to be my go-to headphone when I want to relax and really enjoy the music.

 

Original: http://www.threadbox.net/2010/11/22/audeze-lcd-2-the-headphone-the-myth-the-legend/


Edited by thread - 11/22/10 at 6:54pm
post #246 of 10409
Thread Starter 

Nice review! Is the soldering work in that replacement cable ok?

post #247 of 10409

lol, well really I didn't really want to get into this, but it did take Whiplash a few tries to wire my cable correctly. Craig totally smoothed the situation over and did take care of me in the end, and hopefully his assistant now knows how to wire these things for the next guy. I stuck with him, though, because I do like this Sapphire Pro cable otherwise.

post #248 of 10409
Thread Starter 

Good to hear that it finally ended up ok.... but have you had a look at the actual soldering work inside the plugs?
 

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lol, well really I didn't really want to get into this, but it did take Whiplash a few tries to wire my cable correctly. Craig totally smoothed the situation over and did take care of me in the end, and hopefully his assistant now knows how to wire these things for the next guy. I stuck with him, though, because I do like this Sapphire Pro cable otherwise.

post #249 of 10409

No, but wiggling doesn't cause the connections to cut out, and a voltmeter shows me it's wired correctly.
 

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Originally Posted by DefectiveAudioComponent View Post

Good to hear that it finally ended up ok.... but have you had a look at the actual soldering work inside the plugs?
 

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Originally Posted by thread View Post

lol, well really I didn't really want to get into this, but it did take Whiplash a few tries to wire my cable correctly. Craig totally smoothed the situation over and did take care of me in the end, and hopefully his assistant now knows how to wire these things for the next guy. I stuck with him, though, because I do like this Sapphire Pro cable otherwise.


 
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No, but wiggling doesn't cause the connections to cut out, and a voltmeter shows me it's wired correctly.
 

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Originally Posted by DefectiveAudioComponent View Post

Good to hear that it finally ended up ok.... but have you had a look at the actual soldering work inside the plugs?
 

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Originally Posted by thread View Post

lol, well really I didn't really want to get into this, but it did take Whiplash a few tries to wire my cable correctly. Craig totally smoothed the situation over and did take care of me in the end, and hopefully his assistant now knows how to wire these things for the next guy. I stuck with him, though, because I do like this Sapphire Pro cable otherwise.


 

 


Thread that was a great write up and while I agree with most evrything in it and I respect your opinion I disagree with the cable as no good. I think Canare cable is very good and yes it is speaker cable but after all they all are used for speaker cable. I have had no issues with the cable and I have seen no reason to spend hundreds more for a subtle improvement as most have described. I enjoy my LCD2 as designed but hope your cable situation worked out well enough for your satisfaction and again nice writeup. I enjoyed reading it.

post #251 of 10409

 

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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

Thread that was a great write up and while I agree with most evrything in it and I respect your opinion I disagree with the cable as no good. I think Canare cable is very good and yes it is speaker cable but after all they all are used for speaker cable. I have had no issues with the cable and I have seen no reason to spend hundreds more for a subtle improvement as most have described. I enjoy my LCD2 as designed but hope your cable situation worked out well enough for your satisfaction and again nice writeup. I enjoyed reading it.


Canare cables are quite good. The only issue I have with the original cable after the mods is the plastic sheathing that goes from the plug to the Y-split. I am trying to find a way to cut it all off but maintain the solders.

post #252 of 10409

If you just wiggle the heat shrinking a bit to loosen the mesh sheathing, you should be able to just tug the sheathing out on both sides. Pull it back, and cut along the length with scissors. The material makes a bit of a mess as it comes apart on the table. That was my experience... And then the wire is all candy-cane looking and is still thick and stiff. I may have exaggerated a bit on my feelings with the stock cable, though... Removing the mesh did mostly fix the microphonics issue, my primary concern.

 

And thanks for the comments, guys.


Edited by thread - 11/23/10 at 11:31pm
post #253 of 10409

 

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If you just wiggle the heat shrinking a bit to loosen the mesh sheathing, you should be able to just tug the sheathing out on both sides. Pull it back, and cut along the length with scissors. The material makes a bit of a mess as it comes apart on the table. That was my experience... And then the wire is all candy-cane looking and is still thick and stiff. I may have exaggerated a bit on my feelings with the stock cable, though... Removing the mesh did mostly fix the microphonics issue, my primary concern.

 

And thanks for the comments, guys.


That is the mod I already did. What I mean is the plastic sheath that says "Made in Japan".

post #254 of 10409
Thread Starter 

I just sat down after a long day at work to relax for a few minutes with some music. I sit down in my leather chair, and it also feels like I am wearing one on my head. Soft and comfortable leather furniture for the head. The Bladerunner soundtrack by Vangelis sounds absolutely magical through the LCD-2.The only thing missing right now is a glass of whiskey.


Edited by DefectiveAudioComponent - 12/2/10 at 7:55am
post #255 of 10409

 

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I just sat down after a long day at work to relax for a few minutes with some music. I sit down in my leather chair, and it also feels like I am wearing one on my head. Soft and comfortable leather furniture for the head. The Bladerunner soundtrack by Vangelis sounds absolutely magical through the LCD-2.The only thing missing right now is a glass of whiskey.


Then get up and go get it!

 

About the comfort, someone compared the LCD2 to an Eames lounge chair.

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