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post #1891 of 9631
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Originally Posted by fortitude View Post
 

 

That's the thing, the LCD's will scale up with better gear.  The Lyr at $450 is a very attractive starter amp with them, but if you're dumping a couple hundred more into tube rolling I'd just assume moving into a better amp at that point.  Put a pair of HD800s on the lyr and those reveal every little limitation of the amp, the LCD2s kind of smooth it out and make it pleasant.

 

I've also listened to the LCD-X and LCD-3's on the lyr with orange globes and I couldn't hear too much between the LCD2s and the LCD-X's which I believe was a limitation of the amp.  Once I moved these over to the GSX and master 8, there was a clear difference between them.  The LCD 3's were the best of the audeze's on the lyr to my ears, the mids were so nice and there was a lot more air between the instruments but cost of admission is really getting up there.

They LCD-3s get quite a bit better too. While I loved the LCD-2s on the Lyr, I was astounded that the synergy didn't follow to the LCD-3s.

post #1892 of 9631
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

They LCD-3s get quite a bit better too. While I loved the LCD-2s on the Lyr, I was astounded that the synergy didn't follow to the LCD-3s.

 

i found the same thing with my WA6-SE. 

 

the LCD-2 sounded very good on it especially with the 596, probably the best i've heard them sound short of the GSX MK2. but the LCD-3 didn't impress me as much, the synergy was different and it didn't impress me as much.

post #1893 of 9631
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

i found the same thing with my WA6-SE. 

 

the LCD-2 sounded very good on it especially with the 596, probably the best i've heard them sound short of the GSX MK2. but the LCD-3 didn't impress me as much, the synergy was different and it didn't impress me as much.

I found that the LCD-2s sounded great with most of the amps I had on hand. Not so much with my LCD-3s and HD800s. 

post #1894 of 9631

while i'm a very new owner of the lcd2, the first few day, fri. , i still had just the lyr, , and it sounded good, but the bass bothered me for some reason. it seemed loose,

then the next day an asgard 2 arrived, and the sound of the lcd became much better !!, bass tightened, and overall the whole sound became clearer, i'm shipping out the lyr tomorrow

post #1895 of 9631
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

while i'm a very new owner of the lcd2, the first few day, fri. , i still had just the lyr, , and it sounded good, but the bass bothered me for some reason. it seemed loose,

then the next day an asgard 2 arrived, and the sound of the lcd became much better !!, bass tightened, and overall the whole sound became clearer, i'm shipping out the lyr tomorrow

That Asgard 2 will be a better amp for your Grados IMO.

post #1896 of 9631

I sold my Lyr tonight, but before I packed it up, I did some test listening with the LCD-X. The signature is very full and warm, not unpleasing.  Switching back to the Mjolnir, everything tightens up, the detail increases by an order of magnitude, and the timbre of acoustic instruments sounds more faithful. May as well be two completely different headphones. The LCD-2 didn't change quite as much as the LCD-X, but the differences certainly weren't subtle.

post #1897 of 9631
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

That Asgard 2 will be a better amp for your Grados IMO.


i tell you, i'm really happy my combo of the A2 and the little dot 1+,

and the grado's are indeed very good with the A2, but when i want a tube sound from them, i have the LD

 

and while i'm here, i know this is  VERY subjective, but, whats the general thought the lcd2's stock cable ??

while i wouldn't consider really consider spending a crazy amount of dollars on some wire,

but if there are some options that do offer better sound for a reasonable price, i might give it a whirl

post #1898 of 9631
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 


i tell you, i'm really happy my combo of the A2 and the little dot 1+,

and the grado's are indeed very good with the A2, but when i want a tube sound from them, i have the LD

 

and while i'm here, i know this is  VERY subjective, but, whats the general thought the lcd2's stock cable ??

while i wouldn't consider really consider spending a crazy amount of dollars on some wire,

but if there are some options that do offer better sound for a reasonable price, i might give it a whirl

I think the LCD-2/3/X stock cables are quite good. 

post #1899 of 9631
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I think the LCD-2/3/X stock cables are quite good. 


and i was assuming, just based on how well built they are, and seeing how the audeze folks do things, that the stock would already be pretty good,

just wondering if there's something out there, that might be better without costing an arm and a leg ! lol

post #1900 of 9631
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 


and i was assuming, just based on how well built they are, and seeing how the audeze folks do things, that the stock would already be pretty good,

just wondering if there's something out there, that might be better without costing an arm and a leg ! lol

If you get the itch, the best I've owned are the Q Cables. That said, I typically reserve cable upgrades after amp/dac/source.

post #1901 of 9631

I ran into something somewhat strange recently. I was trying a friend's LCD-2 rev 1 recently and decided to bring my M-Stage to see how they sounded together. However, I had to crank the amp to almost max to get to listening levels (on max gain). The M-Stage is listed as producing 400mW into 60 ohm. The Rev 1 is 50 ohm (close enough) with a sensitivity of 91db/mW. The M-Stage should have been able to power them to easily over 110db, yet it could hardly get up to my usual listening volume, which is 75-85db. The Rev 2 with it's higher impedance and slightly lower sensitivity would be driven to 114-117db.

 

Am I calculating this wrong, or was I doing something very wrong when listening to the rev 1's with the M-Stage?

post #1902 of 9631
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

If you get the itch, the best I've owned are the Q Cables. That said, I typically reserve cable upgrades after amp/dac/source.


and you're exactly right there, before i get cables, i do want to get my dac situation taken care of

the i either need to get the bifrost updated, gen2 and uber, or get something else !

thanks, i was getting off track !

post #1903 of 9631

I honestly don't like the Lyr that much. It's "okay". But to my ears the Lyr smears a lot of the details. Transparency is pretty bad IMHO. But you do get a taste of tubes and a lot of power for the money. I can see how the Asgard 2 would be cleaner/tighter sounding. And the Mjolnir also. Hell even the Emotiva is more transparent and tight compared to the Lyr running 60s Telefunken tubes.

post #1904 of 9631
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I think the LCD-2/3/X stock cables are quite good. 

+1

post #1905 of 9631
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

I honestly don't like the Lyr that much. It's "okay". But to my ears the Lyr smears a lot of the details. Transparency is pretty bad IMHO. But you do get a taste of tubes and a lot of power for the money. I can see how the Asgard 2 would be cleaner/tighter sounding. And the Mjolnir also. Hell even the Emotiva is more transparent and tight compared to the Lyr running 60s Telefunken tubes.


this was exactly my findings once i heard the asgard 2

i loved the lyr with the grado's, and wasn't looking to switch at all, but as luck would have it, an A2 wound up here and the differences between the lyr and the A2 was like going from standard-def on my tv to hi-def with the audeze's !!

with the grado's the differences were still there, just not to the degree as the lcd2

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