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post #1876 of 3579
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Originally Posted by Barry S View Post


I'd rather have the LCD-2 and a good amp/dac setup than an LCD-3 or LCD-X with a low-end amp/dac setup.

Me too.

post #1877 of 3579

Can anymore comment on the lcd2 with the lyr. I'm guessing it's pretty good. 

post #1878 of 3579
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Can anymore comment on the lcd2 with the lyr. I'm guessing it's pretty good.

 

It's pretty good, has plenty of power and drive.  A bit dependent on the tubes.  The lyr with amperex orange globes had a slightly dark signature, smooth but not incredibly detailed. The stock tubes were a little grainy in the upper mids and highs but had decent bass.

post #1879 of 3579

It is warm, natural and dynamic - a great pairing.  

 

The downside would be that both components are a bit lacking in detail, and slightly closed in or congested.  That sounds like a bad pairing, but it is a relative comment (relative to what is available at MUCH higher prices).  

 

For me (not a detail hound or a treble head), it is a rich and satisfying combo.

 

The sound can be opened up a little by using Amperex Bugle Boy "O Getters" (a bit more detail, a bit larger soundstage), but the Orange Globes (especially the early "O Getters" once again) are fantastic and have an earthy, "gutsy" sound as opposed to the Bugle Boys more "ethereal" sound.

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It is warm, natural and dynamic - a great pairing.

 

The downside would be that both components are a bit lacking in detail, and slightly closed in or congested.  That sounds like a bad pairing, but it is a relative comment (relative to what is available at MUCH higher prices).

 

For me (not a detail hound or a treble head), it is a rich and satisfying combo.

 

The sound can be opened up a little by using Amperex Bugle Boy "O Getters" (a bit more detail, a bit larger soundstage), but the Orange Globes (especially the early "O Getters" once again) are fantastic and have an earthy, "gutsy" sound as opposed to the Bugle Boys more "ethereal" sound.

 

I can agree with that, it's not a super analytical combo but very pleasant and easy to listen to.

 

At a recent meet, I heard my former LCD2's on a GSX Mk2 and a Audio GD master 8 and it was a completely different type of sound, much more focused and precise in placement and the vocals and instruments were a smaller more pin point type of sound.  The Lyr had a darker signature with vocals, instruments being a bit more smeared and congested while the top end SS amps had a clear separation between them with air between them.

post #1881 of 3579

^^ thanks very much guys!! That's just what I needed to know. 

post #1882 of 3579
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I can agree with that, it's not a super analytical combo but very pleasant and easy to listen to.

 

At a recent meet, I heard my former LCD2's on a GSX Mk2 and a Audio GD master 8 and it was a completely different type of sound, much more focused and precise in placement and the vocals and instruments were a smaller more pin point type of sound.  The Lyr had a darker signature with vocals, instruments being a bit more smeared and congested while the top end SS amps had a clear separation between them with air between them.


+2 for fortitude and NinjaHamster's comments,  The LCD-2 sounds good on the Lyr, but lacks the detail a better amp can deliver. I ran my LCD-2 out of a Lyr for a month before I got the Mjolnir/Gungnir combination, and there was a big improvement when I upgraded. It might be worth finding some tubes that push the Lyr's sound more forward.  The stock GEs are more aggressive than the Amperex OGs at the cost of some added graininess. There may be some better tubes to roll with the LCD-2s. I figured I could easily drop a few hundred bucks on tubes and that made the Mjolnir very attractive.

post #1883 of 3579

Thanks Barry. I'll give it a couple weeks to decide how I feel about the lyr, lcd2 and OG's. I may look to move on some tubes if necessary. 

post #1884 of 3579
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+2 for fortitude and NinjaHamster's comments,  The LCD-2 sounds good on the Lyr, but lacks the detail a better amp can deliver. I ran my LCD-2 out of a Lyr for a month before I got the Mjolnir/Gungnir combination, and there was a big improvement when I upgraded. It might be worth finding some tubes that push the Lyr's sound more forward.  The stock GEs are more aggressive than the Amperex OGs at the cost of some added graininess. There may be some better tubes to roll with the LCD-2s. I figured I could easily drop a few hundred bucks on tubes and that made the Mjolnir very attractive.

 

That's the thing, the LCD's will scale up with better gear.  The Lyr at $450 is a very attractive starter amp with them, but if you're dumping a couple hundred more into tube rolling I'd just assume moving into a better amp at that point.  Put a pair of HD800s on the lyr and those reveal every little limitation of the amp, the LCD2s kind of smooth it out and make it pleasant.

 

I've also listened to the LCD-X and LCD-3's on the lyr with orange globes and I couldn't hear too much between the LCD2s and the LCD-X's which I believe was a limitation of the amp.  Once I moved these over to the GSX and master 8, there was a clear difference between them.  The LCD 3's were the best of the audeze's on the lyr to my ears, the mids were so nice and there was a lot more air between the instruments but cost of admission is really getting up there.


Edited by fortitude - 11/18/13 at 7:32am
post #1885 of 3579
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Can anymore comment on the lcd2 with the lyr. I'm guessing it's pretty good. 
Matt, I LOVE the lyr, but with the kcd2
I actually preferred the a2, but hey, that's just me! Lol
post #1886 of 3579
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Can anymore comment on the lcd2 with the lyr. I'm guessing it's pretty good. 

 

It's a very balanced sound. The lyr doesn't sound that tubey but it's more of a warm essence to balance out what I'd imagine to be a somewhat brighter sound.

 

If you're exclusively running orthos, the Asgard II is something I'd strongly consider just because the price is friendly and it's also somewhat a powerhouse. The tube rolling introduces possibility of upgradeitis to me and I have it really really bad when it comes to almost anything with a price tag bro..

post #1887 of 3579
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Me too.

 

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I'd rather have the LCD-2 and a good amp/dac setup than an LCD-3 or LCD-X with a low-end amp/dac setup.

 

Many thanks, i think its obvious the scale has tipped to the LCD2+amp. I have bitten the bullet and just ordered the LCD2! For the amp I am leaning towards the Soloist, but still considering V200 and a Audio-gd offering.

 

Can't wait to get back on full-sized headphones :gs1000smile:

post #1888 of 3579
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Many thanks, i think its obvious the scale has tipped to the LCD2+amp. I have bitten the bullet and just ordered the LCD2! For the amp I am leaning towards the Soloist, but still considering V200 and a Audio-gd offering.

 

Can't wait to get back on full-sized headphones :gs1000smile:

Well done !  I'm sure you'll be very happy with the LCD-2's.  I'd also consider the Mjolnir amp as well if you are after solid state.

post #1889 of 3579

Never mind... got this sorted. 


Edited by fabriciom - 11/18/13 at 11:18am
post #1890 of 3579

To those with LCD-2's, what would power them better, a Schiit Magni, or a vintage amp (Optonica SM-4000u)?

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