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post #1291 of 10369
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Originally Posted by OPR8R View Post


Just out of curiosity, what amp did you use with the HD800?  The same amp you're using with your LCD-2?

 

Yep!

post #1292 of 10369
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Originally Posted by Lappy27 View Post

Hi Xero,

 

You can relax. You will be blown away with your future set up in comparaison of what you are trying rigth now.

 

What you are doing is like road testing a Ferrari on a crappy road with hundreds of potholes,

 

The LCD-2 with right amplification are simply fabulous.

 

I heard my LCD-2 last year with the WA6SE at le Festival du Son et Image in Montreal. I was really impressed. Really smooth and robust sound and with definitely enough power to make the LCD-2 shine.

 

Now, relax, have a good bottle of wine or your favorite drink and resist to the temptation of driving this ferrari on this crappy road until you reach the Autobahn!

 

 

+1

 

WA6-SE is really good with LCD-2.

post #1293 of 10369
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Originally Posted by Lan647 View Post

 

I know some people will disagree with me on this, but in my opinion the HD 800 is a VERY overrated headphone. At first, it sounds very detailed and revealing. But extensive listening and comparisons to better headphones have left me with the conclusion that the HD 800 gives the impression of a detailed sound by elevating the treble. It doesn't reveal TRUE details in the music to the degree that planar magnetic and electrostatic headphones do. I'm hearing details with the LCD-2 I honestly never heard with the HD 800. 

 

 

HUH??  blink.gif

 

 


Edited by preproman - 6/13/13 at 4:15am
post #1294 of 10369
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

HUH??  blink.gif

 

 

 

Like I said, some will disagree. The crispness and "detail" of the HD 800 is a result of the tonality. Zero bass bloom and excessive treble and that's what you get. Not saying the HD 800 isn't detailed per se, but it's not on par with better headphones like the Audeze's or STAXes in this regard, IMO. 

post #1295 of 10369
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Like I said, some will disagree. The crispness and "detail" of the HD 800 is a result of the tonality. Zero bass bloom and excessive treble and that's what you get. Not saying the HD 800 isn't detailed per se, but it's not on par with better headphones like the Audeze's or STAXes in this regard, IMO. 

 

IMO Audeze does not produce a better headphone as far as detail retrieval goes.  If the HD800 treble is excessive as you say - Then the LCDs treble is shelved.  Shelved treble gives you less detail..

post #1296 of 10369

Play any complex orchestral or big band piece and then see which headphone gives the most details.  

 

Headphones with treble peaks may seem to highlight more treble details, true. But there are details through out the FR. The HD800's are able to reproduce layers in orchestral music for example that the LCD2's struggle with. Instruments can be clearly defined. Where as with the LCD2's they blend together. It is the space and control that the LCD2's simply don't have with large ensemble music and this can sound like smearing in complex passages. I'm not beating on the LCD2's I love them! But its true. And it's misleading to imply otherwise imo. 

 

 

+1 

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I'm dying to hear these HD800's.  I really want to know if I'll appreciate this instrument separation.  I mean when I go to the symphony I hear the overall sound the composer intended, not 60 or 70 individual instruments.  Can you actually hear that there's (sometimes) 30 violins playing at once?  I've heard it said the HD800's are more natural sounding than LCD's.  That's a bold statement, but if it's true, the HD800's must really be something.

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Why is that a bold statement?

post #1299 of 10369
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Why is that a bold statement?

Because LCD's are known for being natural/organic sounding, while HD800's are known for being detailed.  If in reality the HD800 is better in both ways, I see no reason to buy anything else.  That's a bold statement.

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Not bold at all - how about.. That's a true statement..L3000.gif

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How much money do you have to lay out to make the HD800 sound natural?

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Originally Posted by OPR8R View Post

I'm dying to hear these HD800's.  I really want to know if I'll appreciate this instrument separation.  I mean when I go to the symphony I hear the overall sound the composer intended, not 60 or 70 individual instruments.  Can you actually hear that there's (sometimes) 30 violins playing at once?  I've heard it said the HD800's are more natural sounding than LCD's.  That's a bold statement, but if it's true, the HD800's must really be something.

 

The LCD2's don't have the best instrument separation in general, though I wouldn't go as far as to suggest there's a lack of detail.

 

If anything, I'd say the LCD2's provide a more accurate listen than the HD800s which have a painful, in my experience, treble etch and lack the fully extended bass (and there's a bit more distortion in the bass to boot). 

 

The imaging on the HD800s is pretty unparalleled of course, so if you like soundstaging, detail/microdetail and instrument separation, you really can't go wrong.

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I don't understand your point?blink.gif

 

 


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How much money do you have to lay out to make the HD800 sound natural?

 

Edited by preproman - 6/13/13 at 9:55am
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In my system - I have never experienced any treble etch or lack the fully extended bass and definitely no distortion in the bass.

 

If this is the case with the LCD2..  The LCD3s most be miles ahead the HD800..  I don't find that to be the case at all.  However, I do find the LCD3s ahead the LCD2s by a large margin in detail retrieval, soundstaging and instrument separation.

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Not bold at all - how about.. That's a true statement..L3000.gif

 

Well, I can't offer an opinion, though even if I could I don't know if you could call it the truth.

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