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LOL!!! I call BS as well!!!popcorn.gif

 

 

I'm joining your ship... no offense 3X0. However I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

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Originally Posted by nywytboy68 View Post

LOL!!! I call BS as well!!!popcorn.gif

 

 

I'm joining your ship... no offense 3X0. However I'd be happy to be proven wrong.


I'm quoting exactly what I was told by the HK distributor. I don't have any personal experience with the unit yet. wink_face.gif

 

If I like it enough maybe I'll buy it for my 17-hour flight back to NY on Monday and I'll get a real idea of the lasting power.

 

Also, too bad I only have the iPhone 4 to compare directly against, and only a distant memory of the HM-801.


Edited by 3X0 - 12/23/10 at 7:23pm
post #243 of 356

Your Hong Kong distributor is high (literally and probably, hope not, figuratively).

According to several (at least 2) Chinese reviewers, the internal battery of the Colorfly Pocket Hi-Fi C4 is 2000 MAh, lasting around 6-10 or 6-8 hours. They also state that the firmware's "Fuel Gauge" is very inaccurate.

 

Links. Not as if you can understand...

http://bbs.imp3.net/thread-924410-1-1.html

http://bbs.imp3.net/thread-953689-1-1.html

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Also you may be interested in this. Some folks there made a comparison between the HM-801, this C4, and some desktop setup (apparently Chinese, so can't translate).

 

http://www.erji.net/read.php?tid=964177

 

Apparently the C4 beats the HM-801 in several categories, almost rivals that desktop setup and completely pwns the PCM-D50 and some iMod.

That guy is the admin of that specific forum. I hope that he is not paid and I'm waiting for dfkt's graphs.

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Also you may be interested in this. Some folks there made a comparison between the HM-801, this C4, and some desktop setup (apparently Chinese, so can't translate).

 

http://www.erji.net/read.php?tid=964177

 

Apparently the C4 beats the HM-801 in several categories, almost rivals that desktop setup and completely pwns the PCM-D50 and some iMod.

That guy is the admin of that specific forum. I hope that he is not paid and I'm waiting for dfkt's graphs.

 

Lol.  I think deep down inside you've got a feeling about it all.  wink.gif
 

post #246 of 356
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Your Hong Kong distributor is high (literally and probably, hope not, figuratively).

Quite possibly. He dislikes orthos (incl. the LCD-2 and HE-6), stats (incl. O2), and his main rig centers around Ultrasones. And he tried to sell me a Crystal Piccolino! popcorn.gif

 

I'll confront him on this information! Though I'll probably ask the manager/owner as well.


Edited by 3X0 - 12/23/10 at 7:36pm
post #247 of 356

Wow look at the caps on that 801!  tongue.gif

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Wow look at the caps on that 801!  tongue.gif



I am aware of your dislike towards electrolytic caps. Thing is, electronics today ain't what they used to be. My nearly 20 years-old Discman has around 30 electrolytics inside and the unit is still going like new (although the owner did take very good care, not a speck of dust, not one single scratch and the stickers look as if they were applied yesteday). But I digress.

This particular unit has a dozen Elna caps. From what I understand, that's some good caps. Problem today is that everybody wants to cut costs, thus by using, amongst others, cheaper caps. Heck, even if they still used Elna caps, I don't think Elna themselves make these caps the same way they did 20 years ago.

That said, I also have a vintage 70's receiver with huge Elna reservoir capacitors (six of them), and all the rest is Towa. Thing sounds new.

post #249 of 356

I was teasing you man.  wink_face.gif  Not sure, I think my 602 have bursting caps as well.  I just like to reduce possible areas of concern.  Just an overarching them I have that extends beyond caps.

 

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post #250 of 356

Yeah eh. Look at 'em pretty stamped tops in that C4.

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post #251 of 356

IF i was not interested in Digital Out ( from the DAP ) HM801 is a lot more interesting !!  as its amp section is upgradable ( and i have heard HD will continue bringing amp cards for it )

thus it is upgradable in  way !

 

I am loosing interest in the Colorfy more and more, as i read more about it. the QA350 is always an alternative for digital out DAP.

post #252 of 356

I tested the Colorfly today. I was quite underwhelmed by the build quality and the sound quality (compared vis-a-vis the iPhone 4 [FLAC vs. ALAC, and some duplicated MP3 files]).

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And it all comes crashing down ;)

post #254 of 356

The Colorfly is pretty large, but it's light for its weight in a negative way -- it feels kind of cheap (more on this later). The units just came yesterday and they weren't used before (brand new units), yet you can see quite a number of defects in the workmanship:

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Obvious.

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Look above my thumb and on the mini-jack.

 

IMO at the targeted price points and given the focus on aesthetics such defects are unacceptable. The metal-look of the front face of the player is actually achieved with the use of paint (as evidenced by the small amount on the 3.5mm jack above) over plastic -- it just ends up feeling chintzy. The volume slider doesn't feel particularly firm (i.e. no chance using this thing portably without the provided case). The action of the face buttons is soft and uninspiring.

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The screen is OK. The VU meter animation has low FPS and the interface is pretty laggy and unintuitive. I have no qualms against the information it displayed.

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The upsampling feature wasn't particularly noticeable over the brief period of time I got to test it out. (The unit came at about a 50% charge according to the gauge, but it's already been mentioned the firmware's meter is very inaccurate -- this is true. It died after about a half hour of listening. Also, I did confirm with the distributor that the expected battery life of the unit is indeed 10 hours; they were erroneous earlier.)

 

On the upside, the emblem of the unit is indeed precisely and impressively etched into the back of the unit.

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(Also, please excuse my offensively long fingernails. I promise I'll clip them.)

 

If you weren't attentive enough to note the tag attached to the headphone cable in the pictures above.. I left my JH-13s at home when I tried it (packed them since I'm leaving this weekend, plus this was an unplanned visit). I ended up using their demo JH-13s for the comparisons (N.B. they had JH-16 demos too, but I prefer the 13s -- and I've owned both). They recommended that I use the high-gain 6.3mm jack since it ostensibly provides a better sound. I tried the 3.5mm jack as well -- mainly lower gain as I suspected, with much finer control through the volume slider.

 

Over its half-hour of life, I wasn't particularly impressed. It has a fairly bright tonality with fine resolution of inner details, overall. The iPhone 4 tended to be bassier and a tad darker, but it didn't lose that much in resolving capabilities at all. The relative strength in the bass impact/character and stereo width of the iPhone 4 admirably met the very slight refinement advantage of the Colorfly. The gap of difference between the iPhone 4 and the Colorfly is much, much smaller than the former to the HM-801 (going by memory).

 

To be frank, my laptop does it one better (N.B. to be fair, the laptop is an Elitebook 8530p with a 24-bit DAC and relatively strong amp section; it hisses a little). The Colorfly does have a dead silent background; hiss-free, as far as I could hear.

 

The EQ presets weren't particularly very good. They were pretty dramatic, compromising the tonal characteristics inherent to the player. I stuck with the flat setting.

 

I regret that it did not live long enough for me to try it out with larger, more demanding headphones (the next steps were going to be DT-990/250s, other mid-range phones, then T1s). But for bona fide portable use, I would never get this. I would also be concerned for issues with fit, finish and feel.


Edited by 3X0 - 12/25/10 at 5:34am
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as nice as it looks its a brick, no ifs or buts..even hifi-man looks a decent size next to it blink.gif

 



If I got it I would use it as a desktop transport. Never for portable use.


burt why would you do that? easy to get better hardware for this money for home gear.

 

also to be fair in relation to the review that is mentioned above comparing it to itouch low Z drive, its a pretty tall order to beat for a dap, as the touch and iphone are well known for their excellent and linear drive/response into lowZ headphones



What's better for the price and features that runs on batteries?

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