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Banana Plug bi-wiring questions.

post #1 of 5
8/26/10 at 11:46am
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So, I want to bi-wire a pair of JBL bookshelf speakers I have. I am running with a Denon Receiver, which I believe only takes banana plugs. I am not 100% certain about this, but I think it is the case. So, I bought a pair of Dayton Audio banana plug speaker cables off Parts Express. The speaker cables are terminated in banana plugs on both ends. they are soldered on, so not easy modification. nor do i want to mod them, because they seem like great cables as is.

 

My question is, how can I bi-wire with these cables? I heard the phrase "piggy-backing" banana plugs. Anyone provide some insight on this?

 

I should note, I just purchased the Dayton cables, and really like them, so I don't want to scrap them for something else.

 

 

Also, is it possible to run another set of cables to a different speaker channel on the receiver? say the rear channels, and just plug that into the tweeters on my bookshelf speakers. I only have a 2 speaker system at the moment, so the rear channels aren't being used.

 

it would be the 2 front channels powering the woofers in the JBL speakers (75W RMS), and the two rear channels powering the tweeters in the JBLs (75W RMS). is that a bit of power overload for the tweets? or would this not work, as it would feed bass frequencies into the tweeters?

 

thanks for the help.

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post #2 of 5
8/26/10 at 7:28pm
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here is what my receiver looks like in the back:

 

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Photos/Default.aspx?i=033AVR1604&tp=179#

 

I would power the JBL woofers with the Right and Left channels of Speakers A.

I would power the JBL tweeters with the Right and Left channels on the Surround section..

 

Would this be okay? Anyone know?

 

Is bi-wiring even worth it?

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post #3 of 5
8/26/10 at 8:49pm

 

I consider bi wiring to be a waste of time,however what you want to do is called bi amping.

 

If your speakers can be bi amped they will have four connectors on the back,if they only have two forget the whole deal and just enjoy the music.

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post #4 of 5
8/28/10 at 6:33am

I used to run a pair of Monitor Audio RS6 speakers, which had the capability for Bi-Wiring/Bi-Amping.  I tried what you are proposing, which is to use the A and B portions of the amp out to each of the 2 speakers.  This is only bi-wiring.  I could not tell a difference in single run vs. bi-wiring with my system.  My current speakers are ZuEssence, a fullrange speaker, and uses only one set of inputs.

 

True Bi-Amping takes 2 amplifiers, and 4 speaker wires to each speaker running the low end separate from the high frequency portion.  I think this can make a difference, but has to be done correctly.  Looking at some systems, the Orion DIY speaker takes 4 amps per speaker to do correctly.

 

If you are not bi-amping your speakers, you will spend your money better getting quality connections between the speaker terminals (the "strap" between the 2 reds, and one on the blacks.)

 

I converted my canare quad speaker cables down from biwire to single run, even before my current speakers.

 

Something to play with, but don't expect dramatic (if any) results from bi-wiring.

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post #5 of 5
8/28/10 at 9:30pm



 

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Originally Posted by Bones13 View Post

I used to run a pair of Monitor Audio RS6 speakers, which had the capability for Bi-Wiring/Bi-Amping.  I tried what you are proposing, which is to use the A and B portions of the amp out to each of the 2 speakers.  This is only bi-wiring.  I could not tell a difference in single run vs. bi-wiring with my system.  My current speakers are ZuEssence, a fullrange speaker, and uses only one set of inputs.

 

True Bi-Amping takes 2 amplifiers, and 4 speaker wires to each speaker running the low end separate from the high frequency portion.  I think this can make a difference, but has to be done correctly.  Looking at some systems, the Orion DIY speaker takes 4 amps per speaker to do correctly.

 

If you are not bi-amping your speakers, you will spend your money better getting quality connections between the speaker terminals (the "strap" between the 2 reds, and one on the blacks.)

 

I converted my canare quad speaker cables down from biwire to single run, even before my current speakers.

 

Something to play with, but don't expect dramatic (if any) results from bi-wiring.



The OP is running the speakers from an AVR,using the rear channels amp along with its normal L R.

This is BI - AMPING what you did was just running A & B speakers which is as you said a Complete waste of time.

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