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Even with lcd-3 around, t1 is still my favorite for general listening
post #5432 of 7292

I am listening to my T1's this morning....it has been a while.....I forget how much I enjoy these headphones

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Originally Posted by Leliana (Click to show)
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Originally Posted by Leliana View Post
 

 

I'll be going to sleep in a minute but here is some brief info.

 

T1

- Big Soundstage

- More Neutral/natural sounding

- Very Detailed

- Better Imaging than TH600/or equal depending on tracks

- Enjoy it for classical, soundtrack, ambient, ambient electronic, acoustic, some jazz, well recorded rock and well recorded metal

- treble spike at 9-10khz can sound strident with some poor recordings

- can be unforgiving

- a bit slow at times for the fastest most complex passages.

 

TH600 - would suit a basshead with a need for quality bass with impact/electronic music fan

- More v curved, a bit elevated bass and treble compared to mids

- can occasionally sound hot on some recordings

- much more sub bass and bass impact in general

- soundstage is good for a closed phone but not massive

- imaging is good, great for a closed headphone

- good with electronic genres (DnB, Dubstep, Trance, House, Trip Hop), I like it with hip hop as well

- high level of detail compared to other closed I've heard

- not as unforgiving

- I have not listened to a real lot of metal here, but it has handled it as well for the most part as the T1 in complexities

 

 

 

thx, need to give fostex th600-900 a try too :tongue_smile:

 

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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

Even with lcd-3 around, t1 is still my favorite for general listening

 

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Originally Posted by philo50 View Post
 

I am listening to my T1's this morning....it has been a while.....I forget how much I enjoy these headphones

 

you two really have them all, the flagships, and both have the HeadAmp incoming too, the more i think about how the t1 sounded and compared to my other cans, the more i regret selling them, but hopefully shouldn't be long till i get a hold on em again... :beyersmile:

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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

Even with lcd-3 around, t1 is still my favorite for general listening
Same for me too:-)
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

Even with lcd-3 around, t1 is still my favorite for general listening

I agree, the T1 sounds great for all genres of music such as classical, jazz, vocals, pop music , country etc.
I'm not a bass head per se but it sounds great too with modern pop music which tends to place an emphasis on bass.
post #5436 of 7292
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Originally Posted by derbigpr View Post

Girls and boys, its a joke, just a little social experiment so to speak. You all failed btw. biggrin.gif.
There is no new T1. These are not T1 2013 graphs, you can go to headroom and check, which nobody did apparently lol.
I made that in MS Paint in about 3 minutes because I wanted to see how people will react, and already I see the people change their minds about how their headphones sound or feel the need to buy a new pair of headphones or pair theirs with a different amp. It took 3 minutes for me to do that, now imagine what the marketing teams of manufacturers do to you with hundreds of thousands of dollars in budget.

dt880smile.png

 

Funny... I was actually going to check with Headroom because I had mentioned to them about a week or so ago that the curve for the T1 impedance was missing from their collection and has been for quite a while. They checked and sure enough it was missing. They told me that they were going to get it added to the collection. At first I though that they had just repeated the tests on a newer set of T1, and since they looked different, they kept both in the archive.

 

Ok, in all seriousness I was fooled for a minute primarily because of the Headroom logo (which is copyrighted of course). I am very aware of the trouble that someone can get into by just reposting a company's proprietary information, but altering it first and then reposting can get you into a BIG heap of trouble! :eek: Caution in the future is greatly advised...

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Originally Posted by wisemanja View Post
 

 

Funny... I was actually going to check with Headroom because I had mentioned to them about a week or so ago that the curve for the T1 impedance was missing from their collection and has been for quite a while. They checked and sure enough it was missing. They told me that they were going to get it added to the collection. At first I though that they had just repeated the tests on a newer set of T1, and since they looked different, they kept both in the archive.

 

Ok, in all seriousness I was fooled for a minute primarily because of the Headroom logo (which is copyrighted of course). I am very aware of the trouble that someone can get into by just reposting a company's proprietary information, but altering it first and then reposting can get you into a BIG heap of trouble! :eek: Caution in the future is greatly advised...

 

uh oh, I bet he never thought of that. The administrators might have to get their mops out.

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I gave the HD800 a listen again today and, while impressed, it made me just want to go back to the T1. First, the minor point: it does reach down the jaw a bit, and feels a little cloying. And I'm not really a fan of the Mr. Spock kind of aesthetic. Sonically, yes, it's beautifully damn accurate. But there was a certain, well, euphony factor missing. Too revealing(?) to the point where I felt like I was wincing a bit-- a little on edge. Maybe it's how the sound reaches the ear. It's hard to describe--can anyone else relate to this? In contrast, the T1's come almost as close in terms of detail, transparency, and soundstage, yet also have a certain warmth that makes them more beguiling, and something that I want to keep on my head for longer periods of time. (This is mostly, by the way, listening to classical/orchestral music).

 

So I'm faced with a dilemma (trilemma), as one of my T1 drivers has died: get it repaired for more than half of the price of a new T1, or order a new T1, or move on from Beyer and go a few blocks away from my place and pick up an HD800 in stock? (I can't afford both of them now). Any advice from you good Head-Fi people is appreciated. I would be listening to mostly classical through a Woo WA3. (As I'm posting in the T1 thread, I would expect a bias, lol).

post #5439 of 7292

i don't know how will the hd800 pair with your rig, but on mine for classic i go hd800, no brainer

 

maybe read ask here http://www.head-fi.org/t/680974/my-quest-for-the-perfect-classical-music-headphone-a-brief-visit-of-the-dt-880-t1-hd-800-he-6-and-he-500-long

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Originally Posted by Arcamera View Post
 

I gave the HD800 a listen again today and, while impressed, it made me just want to go back to the T1. First, the minor point: it does reach down the jaw a bit, and feels a little cloying. And I'm not really a fan of the Mr. Spock kind of aesthetic. Sonically, yes, it's beautifully damn accurate. But there was a certain, well, euphony factor missing. Too revealing(?) to the point where I felt like I was wincing a bit-- a little on edge. Maybe it's how the sound reaches the ear. It's hard to describe--can anyone else relate to this? In contrast, the T1's come almost as close in terms of detail, transparency, and soundstage, yet also have a certain warmth that makes them more beguiling, and something that I want to keep on my head for longer periods of time. (This is mostly, by the way, listening to classical/orchestral music).

 

So I'm faced with a dilemma (trilemma), as one of my T1 drivers has died: get it repaired for more than half of the price of a new T1, or order a new T1, or move on from Beyer and go a few blocks away from my place and pick up an HD800 in stock? (I can't afford both of them now). Any advice from you good Head-Fi people is appreciated. I would be listening to mostly classical through a Woo WA3. (As I'm posting in the T1 thread, I would expect a bias, lol).

 

Based upon what you mainly listen to, I think the HD-800 is the better choice IMO. You might just need to swap tubes to optimize it for the HD-800.

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Originally Posted by Arcamera View Post
 

I gave the HD800 a listen again today and, while impressed, it made me just want to go back to the T1. First, the minor point: it does reach down the jaw a bit, and feels a little cloying. And I'm not really a fan of the Mr. Spock kind of aesthetic. Sonically, yes, it's beautifully damn accurate. But there was a certain, well, euphony factor missing. Too revealing(?) to the point where I felt like I was wincing a bit-- a little on edge. Maybe it's how the sound reaches the ear. It's hard to describe--can anyone else relate to this? In contrast, the T1's come almost as close in terms of detail, transparency, and soundstage, yet also have a certain warmth that makes them more beguiling, and something that I want to keep on my head for longer periods of time. (This is mostly, by the way, listening to classical/orchestral music).

 

So I'm faced with a dilemma (trilemma), as one of my T1 drivers has died: get it repaired for more than half of the price of a new T1, or order a new T1, or move on from Beyer and go a few blocks away from my place and pick up an HD800 in stock? (I can't afford both of them now). Any advice from you good Head-Fi people is appreciated. I would be listening to mostly classical through a Woo WA3. (As I'm posting in the T1 thread, I would expect a bias, lol).

 

I don't know about you, but my T1 documentation came indicating a 5 year warranty. This was in conflict with the standard beyerdynamic user manual, but here are the pics:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/508836/the-official-beyerdynamic-t1-owners-club-appreciation-discussion-thread/4710#post_9575714

 

Getting the things fixed under warranty should only involve shipping costs I would think.

 

My concern here is that I remember at least 4 people in the last 3 months here who have had T1 drivers fail. I wonder if it has anything to do with the extremely small wires used on the tesla drivers...


Edited by wisemanja - 9/11/13 at 12:24pm
post #5442 of 7292

Just out of curiousity, what price are you being quoted to fix a driver?

Half the price of the unit seems extreme.

post #5443 of 7292

i thought T1's came with 2 yr warranty, i've never had a driver failure just headband issues, but i thought repairs weren't more than $100 or something like that, i wouldn't think over half the price of a new pair.

post #5444 of 7292

Thanks for you thoughts, All.

 

I got my T1's approx. 3 years ago. I got a lot of great use out of them, at least. Now if I can just find the receipt...particularly not easy after moving house.

 

I purchased them for 1,000$ Canadian then. Now though, I was quoted 800$ for the replacement. If that's really the case, I'd sooner just get a new pair (if the old ones won't be fixed via warranty). But also still thinking about the HD800's. Hmm...

post #5445 of 7292

It's not possible to get the driver and replace it yourself?

 

I'm very happy with my T1 so far. At first I was liking a bit more my old DT-880, but now my T1 get all my listening time. Mine are number 7012, so I'm not sure when they was manufactured, but I guess it's a few years ago.

 

But I'm starting to think, now what? What's the next upgrade I should do? Balanced cable? I'm not sure I can connect them if they are balanced on my auditor.

 

Any advice? 

 

Thanks

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