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post #991 of 10479

Anybody with T1 and LCD2 have compared those with Koss ESP-950???

 

I'm was going for one of those but LCD2 is so heavy that it might break my neck when producing. I've used DT250 for years now and WOW they are soo confortable... the switch might be too much...

 

The T1 is a nice comfy alternative but i'm not sure the bass will be good enough for electronic music, techno... I could also eq a little but most say EQ sucks...

 

Also, I wounder if T1 is as good as stats in the linear mids and clean high department. Some say it's a little hot too (sibilant) depending on the amp used..

 

Some say the HD800 is a better choice for mastering/mixing... but sadly missing some bass slam

 

Anyway i'm stuck and need help to make my choice... The ESP-950 is 240g, 600$, lifetime warranty, include amp... while i can have the T1 at 1050$ and lcd at like 1200 with cable but for those i would need a good matching amp to really drive them properly.. (I wonder if my headstage arrow G3 will be enough to drive them anybody knows??)

post #992 of 10479

Situation is as follows:

 

Have HD-650s. Love them. In love with them.

Have DT-990s. Love them. Deeply infatuated.

Have AKG Q701 (should I say K702 :p). Love some things about them. Not in love with them. But they have some clear advantages in some areas, well done, AKG.

 

I'm ready to toss the requisite price for entry into the high end at one pair of cans, but I really don't know whether I'd be better off with the HD-800s or the Tesla. I think I like the Beyer "thing" better than the Sennheiser "thing," but only barely. The HD-650s have been a long-held, trusty can for me, they were the ones I kept last time I sold everything like a moron. I understand the HD-800 are rather a departure from the Sennheiser house sound. I am kinda looking for an AKG-on-steroids sound, or maybe a DT-but-with-more-refined-bass sound. Love the bass, but it is a bit much isn't it, with the DT-990s? I mean, they've got ample response... A little too ample. Lovely sound overall though, and I feel like Beyer pretty much does everything right with regards to construction quality and comfort, while Sennheiser seems... I dunno, a bit behind there.

 

So, in your learned opinions, am I after the Tesla or the HD-800?


Edited by NotJeffBuckley - 8/2/11 at 2:07pm
post #993 of 10479

the hd800 is nothing like the hd650.  so its not really sennheiser vs beyer for you.  personally, just my "unlearned" opinion, i would say T1.  but if you love whatcha got, do you need the t1? :)

 

whats your amp and source?


Edited by caracara08 - 8/2/11 at 2:08pm
post #994 of 10479

My wife and I are picking presents :) Need is a stretch, haha, I dig my collection, but one headphone to rule them all... The quest continues, you know how it goes.

 

The HD-800 seem so, I don't know, chancy. Such a departure from rather than improvement on the HD-650. Whereas the Tesla, man, in my head they seem like a GREAT idea. Trying to figure out if I'm infatuated with an idea or if I'm actually onto something.

post #995 of 10479

well i had the hd800 and  i have the t1. i think the T1 is more an everyday headphone. the hd800 is like that classic car you drive on weekends. for me it was very very good but not something id prefer every day. but thats just my personal opinion. 

post #996 of 10479
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Originally Posted by NotJeffBuckley View Post

Situation is as follows:

 

Have HD-650s. Love them. In love with them.

Have DT-990s. Love them. Deeply infatuated.

Have AKG Q701 (should I say K702 :p). Love some things about them. Not in love with them. But they have some clear advantages in some areas, well done, AKG.

 

I'm ready to toss the requisite price for entry into the high end at one pair of cans, but I really don't know whether I'd be better off with the HD-800s or the Tesla. I think I like the Beyer "thing" better than the Sennheiser "thing," but only barely. The HD-650s have been a long-held, trusty can for me, they were the ones I kept last time I sold everything like a moron. I understand the HD-800 are rather a departure from the Sennheiser house sound. I am kinda looking for an AKG-on-steroids sound, or maybe a DT-but-with-more-refined-bass sound. Love the bass, but it is a bit much isn't it, with the DT-990s? I mean, they've got ample response... A little too ample. Lovely sound overall though, and I feel like Beyer pretty much does everything right with regards to construction quality and comfort, while Sennheiser seems... I dunno, a bit behind there.

 

So, in your learned opinions, am I after the Tesla or the HD-800?

 

what are your source and amp?

if i were you i might be inclined to upgrade those first.

you already have three really stellar cans.  and, chances are pretty good (if you ask me) that you'll like them even more from a high-end amp and source.

 

i don't mean to be too contrarian.  i mean, after all, this is the T1 thread.

but, i personally believe that in order to get the most out of the $1,000+ headphones, you need source and amp that are commensurate.  wink.gif



 

 

post #997 of 10479
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Originally Posted by TheWuss View Post



 

what are your source and amp?

if i were you i might be inclined to upgrade those first.

you already have three really stellar cans.  and, chances are pretty good (if you ask me) that you'll like them even more from a high-end amp and source.

 

i don't mean to be too contrarian.  i mean, after all, this is the T1 thread.

but, i personally believe that in order to get the most out of the $1,000+ headphones, you need source and amp that are commensurate.  wink.gif



 

 



great advise. i should have just said that. :)

post #998 of 10479

With respect and thanks for your intentions to keep me on a sensible track, I'm happy with my amps and sources. Looking for a pair of headphones that fills in gaps that the current ones have. Well, okay, I guess I'm really just looking for something that sort of slams the DT-990 and the AKG-Q701 together but doesn't result in an HD-650 :p Something with more refined bass than the DT-990 but not (alright, this is controversial, I get that, but my perception is as follows...) as weak as the AKG's bass; something with similar detail and precision to the AKG but with a lower end that's like an improved DT-990, not quite as much. And Beyer headphones are literally the most comfortable things to ever grace my ears. Putting the DT-990 on was a revelation. Everything else feels uncomfortable after that.

post #999 of 10479

snif nobody awnsered me!!! need help see my post

post #1000 of 10479
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Originally Posted by sinae View Post

snif nobody awnsered me!!! need help see my post



sorry dont have experience with that headphone.

post #1001 of 10479

I can have the HE5LE for 500$ at my door, i wonder how it would compete for techno against T1...

 

I need the best but maybe this would be enough for nice and what a nice price for an highend headphone and 400g versus 360g for T1 so should be comfy also.

post #1002 of 10479
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Originally Posted by NotJeffBuckley View Post

With respect and thanks for your intentions to keep me on a sensible track, I'm happy with my amps and sources. Looking for a pair of headphones that fills in gaps that the current ones have. Well, okay, I guess I'm really just looking for something that sort of slams the DT-990 and the AKG-Q701 together but doesn't result in an HD-650 :p Something with more refined bass than the DT-990 but not (alright, this is controversial, I get that, but my perception is as follows...) as weak as the AKG's bass; something with similar detail and precision to the AKG but with a lower end that's like an improved DT-990, not quite as much. And Beyer headphones are literally the most comfortable things to ever grace my ears. Putting the DT-990 on was a revelation. Everything else feels uncomfortable after that.


In my opinion and assuming that your amp is up to the job, the T1 is pretty much exactly what you're looking for. I owned the HD650, K702 and DT880 when I bought the T1... I sold the other three within a few months for lack of use.

 

The T1...

 

...has excellent detail and soundstage, but not the exaggerated detail and soundstage of the K701.

...has bass quantity that approaches (but is not quite equal to) the DT-990, but with much better bass quality and greater depth.

...sounds more like the HD650 than the HD800 sounds like the HD650, but is an improvement in every way.

 

post #1003 of 10479
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Originally Posted by TheWuss View Post



 

what are your source and amp?

if i were you i might be inclined to upgrade those first.

you already have three really stellar cans.  and, chances are pretty good (if you ask me) that you'll like them even more from a high-end amp and source.

 

i don't mean to be too contrarian.  i mean, after all, this is the T1 thread.

but, i personally believe that in order to get the most out of the $1,000+ headphones, you need source and amp that are commensurate.  wink.gif

 

 


x2

 

I'm not sure why so many around here ignore this fact. They dismiss certain high-end headphones because of the mediocrity of the system feeding them.

 

post #1004 of 10479
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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post

Quote:Originally Posted by Zombie_X 

"Hey guys,
I've been looking into the SPL Auditor for my higher ohm headphones and want to know what you guys think of this combo, specifically with my DT880, DT990, and T1. I had demoed the Phonitor (the exact same sonic quality as the Auditor) at a local pro audio store and it sounded great with my HD600's but I do not know how it will fair with the beyers.
I don't normally ask any advise but I am rather curious. I just want something that isn't tube but still very powerful. I saw that the Auditor can do 120V's and thought it may power them very nicely but I don't know how it mates with them. If it sounds anything like my ROC then I'm all in!
Anyways thanks again guys!"


The three channel beta22 with sigma22 power supply is also another powerful option worth looking into.


And likely better with orthos and low impedance dynamic headphones to boot.
post #1005 of 10479
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post




x2

 

I'm not sure why so many around here ignore this fact. They dismiss certain high-end headphones because of the mediocrity of the system feeding them.

 


Well stated Shahrose...I completely agree with this.

"Why don't my $1000+ headphones sound fantastic when I use my FiiO E7/E9 amp/dac setup". confused.gif
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