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Originally Posted by Icenine2 View Post

I'm going to post an ad in the next day or so for my T-1's  #2210 with a brand new Furutech 1/4" plug (this is the best plug period....built like a tank.  I had Moon Audio change it back from the single 4 pin XLR).  Anyone interested PM me.



i think i read that youre selling it to try the lcd2?  is there no way you could get a lcd2 used and try it out first? i liked the sound but the fit/comfort wasnt at the level i liked. 

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The T1 is most probably the safest bet but i would like to look beyond that.
I discarded the LCD-2 option for the lack of high extensions. How do you think about the PRaT of those 3 cans?

 

Too bad i wasnt at the Dutch head-fi meet to hear those babies... Would have been a great opportunity.

 



I pretty much think LCD-2 beats almost every can I've heard on almost every aspect. That comes from someone who really loved the treble in Grado's, and I still like that, but well I don't know, the LCD's do something special for me, they're still engaging.

There were some acoustical songs I'd prefer T1 though, the more 'crispyness' is welcome there.

But I have to say I didn't hear T1 with a tube amp, and I read some things that T1's sig goes very well with nice tube amping.

 

About the Dutch meet, we didn't have a Hifiman can, T1 or LCD-2 (didn't have them at that time).

We did have R10, K1000, HD800, W5000, 007, D7000 thoughtongue_smile.gif

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That's a concern for sure.  There might be someone close by here.  I'll check.

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congrats. yea i heard the reviews werent too good with the burson.   my t1 arrives today :)

heres some eye candy.

TWAg v2 Eclipse terminated to a Oyaide 1/4

 

T1_TWagv2.jpg

T1_TWagv2_split.jpg


Very nice headphone. I notice that you have 3 lead per side so can someone tell me does the positive get's 2 and negative 1 lead or it's reverse?
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i would love to tell you, but i have idea whatsoever. 

 

after about 2 hours. sound is awesome. such crispness. bass is a little lighter than i was hoping for but we shall see after a few more hours.   not sure if you believe in burn in, whether it be cable or headphone, but out of the box it already sounds great. 

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Originally Posted by Stitch View Post



 

The T1 is most probably the safest bet but i would like to look beyond that.
I discarded the LCD-2 option for the lack of high extensions. How do you think about the PRaT of those 3 cans?

 

Too bad i wasnt at the Dutch head-fi meet to hear those babies... Would have been a great opportunity.

 


Actually the LCD-2 extends higher than the T1. It's treble is shelved down after 1kHz, but remains present (and IMO the proper proportion) up to 20kHz. I love my T1s (had them for 17 months or so now) and they are great all rounders, but they do roll off at 13kHz ish (FR graphs and personal frequency sweep testing on my rig).
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Hey guys,

 

I've been looking into the SPL Auditor for my higher ohm headphones and want to know what you guys think of this combo, specifically with my DT880, DT990, and T1. I had demoed the Phonitor (the exact same sonic quality as the Auditor) at a local pro audio store and it sounded great with my HD600's but I do not know how it will fair with the beyers.

 

I don't normally ask any advise but I am rather curious. I just want something that isn't tube but still very powerful. I saw that the Auditor can do 120V's and thought it may power them very nicely but I don't know how it mates with them. If it sounds anything like my ROC then I'm all in!

 

Anyways thanks again guys!

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I pretty much think LCD-2 beats almost every can I've heard on almost every aspect. That comes from someone who really loved the treble in Grado's, and I still like that, but well I don't know, the LCD's do something special for me, they're still engaging.

There were some acoustical songs I'd prefer T1 though, the more 'crispyness' is welcome there.

But I have to say I didn't hear T1 with a tube amp, and I read some things that T1's sig goes very well with nice tube amping.

 

About the Dutch meet, we didn't have a Hifiman can, T1 or LCD-2 (didn't have them at that time).

We did have R10, K1000, HD800, W5000, 007, D7000 thoughtongue_smile.gif



Interesting.

Lol so i basically missed nothing? rolleyes.gif

Still too bad i missed the meet.

 

Can´t i just borrow them or something  redface.gif ..... This isnt getting easier lol 


About the tube amps. They say that about the DT880 but ss drives them great and i prefer the speed, clarity and neutrality of the GS-1 over the warmth and smoothness of the LD MKIII.

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post



Actually the LCD-2 extends higher than the T1. It's treble is shelved down after 1kHz, but remains present (and IMO the proper proportion) up to 20kHz. I love my T1s (had them for 17 months or so now) and they are great all rounders, but they do roll off at 13kHz ish (FR graphs and personal frequency sweep testing on my rig).

 

Not what i expected, or i read it wrong.

I might need to rephrase. I stopped considering them because it seems to lack the sparkle that the T1 and HE-500 seem to have.
But i could be completely wrong.

 


Edited by Stitch - 8/1/11 at 10:24pm
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Would a portable amp such as the SR-71a or JDS cMoy be unable to run the T1's adequately?

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adequately is a subjective term.  whats adequate for me, might not be for you.  if i had to guess, the SR71a would do "better" but would they be showing their potential? no.  youll probably find the T1 to be bright and bass thin underamped.

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Originally Posted by caracara08 View Post

adequately is a subjective term.  whats adequate for me, might not be for you.  if i had to guess, the SR71a would do "better" but would they be showing their potential? no.  youll probably find the T1 to be bright and bass thin underamped.



I see. I'm trying to balance out what high end headphone to settle on out of the HE500, LCD-2 and T1. Only thing is, most of my use is portable so I'd rather invest in a high end portable amp as oppose to a separate stand alone. That way I can use it with my IEM's and headphones. Though I realise this limits my choices.

 

Out of curiosity, how much would I be looking at spending for a stand alone amp that could run this thing adequately with best bang for buck?

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we can name amps from 200+ and it will drive them, but you still might not be happy.  adequately doesnt tell us anything.   you have to be very specific when asking. give us a price range, give us your past experience with full sized, tell us what youre expecting, what you want out of it. etc.  

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Originally Posted by caracara08 View Post

we can name amps from 200+ and it will drive them, but you still might not be happy.  adequately doesnt tell us anything.   you have to be very specific when asking. give us a price range, give us your past experience with full sized, tell us what youre expecting, what you want out of it. etc.  



Price range is really anything below £500. But if I could keep it lower, it would be preferable. Currently my fave arrangement is my Westone 4's with my JDS cMoyBB, despite the fact that I also have an SR-71a, which really got me thinking about price to performance value. I'm after something that will at least best this set up sonically. I mainly use my headphones currently with my PC (Asus Xonar Essence or portable amps) for music listening, gaming and general home listening out of the iPhone 4. Past experience with full sized amps is zilch, I've always only used headphones un-amped or out of built in PC sound cards or portable amps. Then again, I've never used any headphones as demanding as the T1's either, so have never really had to.

 

I'm not really sure what else to add. I'm essentially just looking for the best bang for buck. Something with a nice open soundstage, good instrumental separation and clarity, with deep impactful bass. I like my high's sparkly but not at the expense of sibilance.

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maybe try a headphone that is less demanding than the t1?  but that should be enough for a great desktop amp, but itseems you rather not have to buy one.  if youre sure youre gonna get the T1, you could always try with theSR71a.  im sure youll like it at first but youll find later that its not as good as you want. (happens to almost everyone here). 

 

according to your last couple lines, in my opiinion, the T1 is what youre looking for.  but i dont knwo if youll get all that without a powerful amp.  i like tube amps and i only tried cheaper ones or ones 1000+ but im sure someone can recommend some to you. if you want SS, some people say the concerto is a good match, some ppl say its a bad match. other than that, i dont have much experience with the T1 with SS amps.

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Quote:Originally Posted by Zombie_X 

"Hey guys,
I've been looking into the SPL Auditor for my higher ohm headphones and want to know what you guys think of this combo, specifically with my DT880, DT990, and T1. I had demoed the Phonitor (the exact same sonic quality as the Auditor) at a local pro audio store and it sounded great with my HD600's but I do not know how it will fair with the beyers.
I don't normally ask any advise but I am rather curious. I just want something that isn't tube but still very powerful. I saw that the Auditor can do 120V's and thought it may power them very nicely but I don't know how it mates with them. If it sounds anything like my ROC then I'm all in!
Anyways thanks again guys!"


The three channel beta22 with sigma22 power supply is also another powerful option worth looking into.

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