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post #7381 of 7979

So, do those who own the DT 880 recommend the T1? I overall like the sound of the DT 880s, but I feel it could be improved a bit in regards to the mids. Do the T1s have good mids?

post #7382 of 7979
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Originally Posted by achelgeson View Post
 

So, do those who own the DT 880 recommend the T1? I overall like the sound of the DT 880s, but I feel it could be improved a bit in regards to the mids. Do the T1s have good mids?

I'd say the mids on the T1s are their strongest point. Totally worth the upgrade over the DT880s IMO.

post #7383 of 7979
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I'd say the mids on the T1s are their strongest point. Totally worth the upgrade over the DT880s IMO.

And what about the treble? For me, the treble is very good on the DT 880s, do the T1s sound similar? I know many complain about sibilance in the DT 880s, but I don't hear much sibilance at all.

post #7384 of 7979
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Originally Posted by achelgeson View Post
 

And what about the treble? For me, the treble is very good on the DT 880s, do the T1s sound similar? I know many complain about sibilance in the DT 880s, but I don't hear much sibilance at all.

I found the treble on the DT880s (either the 250 or 600 ohm version) too metallic...thankfully that's much improved on the T1s.

post #7385 of 7979
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Originally Posted by achelgeson View Post
 

And what about the treble? For me, the treble is very good on the DT 880s, do the T1s sound similar? I know many complain about sibilance in the DT 880s, but I don't hear much sibilance at all.

 

I found the treble of the T1 to be very smooth, silk smooth. The DT880 does feel a bit sibilant, the T1 (apart from the slight treble peak, which did not bother me) is much smoother. It is a pure upgrade from the DT880 IMO.

post #7386 of 7979

Yup, the T1's treble is super smooth and detailed.

Btw guys, anyone tried to recable these? im think about that, cuz i find the original cable wery uncomfortable.
Im thinking about forza audioworks hpc

post #7387 of 7979

I recabled using a Norne Audio Skoll Series cable and it is very nice.  Comfort is a huge upgrade from stock and the sound is slightly better as well... Recommended.

post #7388 of 7979

Thanks for your respond! I might recable my babies asap

post #7389 of 7979

Tell Trevor I sent you and I am sure he will go out of his way to make everything perfect for you.  He made me a prepped bare wire ready for me to solder in directly and it took me around 10 minutes with a hot iron to swap the cable out and the cable even fits through the original strain relief and looks good.  Very easy to do.

post #7390 of 7979
I convinced my engineering teacher to get a DX90 smily_headphones1.gif
post #7391 of 7979
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Originally Posted by groovyd View Post
 

Tell Trevor I sent you and I am sure he will go out of his way to make everything perfect for you.  He made me a prepped bare wire ready for me to solder in directly and it took me around 10 minutes with a hot iron to swap the cable out and the cable even fits through the original strain relief and looks good.  Very easy to do.

 

I read ages ago that there's a risk of damaging the wiring to the drivers if we try to recable (as amateurs). Is this the case or was that more about trying to remove the drivers from the cups?

 

I seem to recall something about one of the wire traces to the driver or something being potentially fragile. 

post #7392 of 7979
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post
 

 

I read ages ago that there's a risk of damaging the wiring to the drivers if we try to recable (as amateurs). Is this the case or was that more about trying to remove the drivers from the cups?

 

I seem to recall something about one of the wire traces to the driver or something being potentially fragile. 

The only danger would be leaving the iron on too long and melting the driver, That would be an extreme case and something only someone with no soldering skills might do. It is only necessary to heat the solder until it flows. Anything more and you would be cooking it.

post #7393 of 7979
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Originally Posted by Chodi View Post
 

The only danger would be leaving the iron on too long and melting the driver, That would be an extreme case and something only someone with no soldering skills might do. It is only necessary to heat the solder until it flows. Anything more and you would be cooking it.

 

Oh cool. I might look into doing a recable then... some nice mellow copper in a light weight cable. Yummy!

post #7394 of 7979

the hardest part was removing one of the drivers after having removed the retainer clips.  one side just fell out but the other was jammed in pretty good.  replacing the cable itself was a no brainer.

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*** WARNING*** kind of long winded intro...

 

So I've been out of the headphone scene for about 5-6 years now.  I found this place back in 2005 I think it was. I spent countless hours reading thousands of posts. Like most people that make their way here, we read the experiences of others with various pieces of audio equipment, both the inexpensive and almost unattainable. I too got caught up in the "sampling" effect that makes it way though all of us until we find that "just right" setup for whatever occasion or location, be it portable, trans-portable, the office, the home or even something more. Myself, I generally had to lean towards those things that were not so expensive. It wasn't that I was on a budget or anything, but it was a matter of justifying the expense of a purchase. This mindset has been with me most of my life. But even with that, those of us that do fringe collecting, tend to find a way to get "The Best" we can. 

 

When I left this place 5-6 years ago, I had tried 30-40 different headphones that I have never heard of before joining this place. I got to experience a wide range of cheap to relatively pricey amps, dacs and sources. In the end, I left this place owning a pair of Denon AH-D2000, a pair of AKG 701's and pair of Grado RS2's (thanks Dad!) as well as a MisterX XP amp and AlienDAC (damn I miss that set) and a Darkvoice 336 tube amp (again, Thanks Dad!) along with bunches of custom cables and such from RnB Audio and A Pure Sound (Thanks Alex!) and various sources. But then I got married and we had a kid immediately. My wife ended up staying home with our new born for the first year and without her income, things got tight. Sacrifices had to be made, so... I sold everything. 

 

Fast forward to today. Now, some of our smart phones seem to be pretty decent sources, like the phone listed in my signature. Who would have thunk your phone would be capable of playing 24bit 192kHz flac files naively 6 years ago? So with the acquisition of this phone and a bonus check from work, I decided it was time to check into some decent headphones. I had been using a set of Klipsch S4i's from my iPhone days. They still work fine, but I remember how some of my old headphones use to sound. I wanted to get some of that back. So I lucked out and got a set of Ultimate Ears UE900s for a pretty decent price on ebay. They arrived and I think this would be it. NOPE. While these iems sounded good, when I could get a good seal, they didn't have that punch or WOW factor that I would have figured to have been present in something like these. The worst part of it was fighting to get a good position and seal at the same time, without causing pain from shoving the damn things in my ear canals. After 4 days I have decided these just are not for me. So I'll be posting them soon.

 

*** Now for the relevant part ***

Today at lunch, I went to a local (Dallas) high-end audio shop called Audio Concepts (Preston and Forrest Lane) to check out the much raved about Grado PS500's. I got there and was greeted by the sale associate and explained to him that I was there to check out some of the headphones, mostly the Grados. We went to their headphone room where they had about 15 pairs of various headphones laid out to sample. They had an iMac with iTunes on it, loaded up with tons of lossless albums to choose from. This iMac was lined out to several usb dacs. So I start at the bottom of line Grados and work my way up to the PS500's. Man did they sound awesome. I was seriously considering paying $600 for them right then and there. But I wanted to check out as much as I could before jumping on a purchase like that. So then I look over and there on the other side of table was a pair of Sennheiser HD800's. So I just had to know what these $1800 headphones sounded like... Now I have never been partial to Sennheiser. I was always a Grado fanboy. But I did like the HD600 and HD650 back in the day. Just not enough to buy them. The HD800's... I didn't like at all. I was completely underwhelmed. And around this time, the sale associate made his way back in and asked what I thought about them. I told him that I just didn't care for them. They were really just too tame for me. So he told me to try the Beyerdynamic T1's and that these were his favorite set of headphones period. Yeah ok, I understand you are trying to sell me on one of the two highest priced sets of headphones you have. But ok, I'll give it a shot. So I turned to the iMac, found the Led Zeppelin collection in iTunes. I plugged the T1's into one of the usb dacs (I wished I took more time to found out which one it was, but it was not the Rega). I double click on Ten Years Gone...

 

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! I remember that I literally said, "Oh my ******* god!" outloud, the sales associate and the manager just happened to be standing outside the room and I saw them both chuckling after I said it. It was like I was listening to heaven. I haven't had a wow factor happen like that since the first time I heard a pair of AKG 701's hooked up to a Darkvoice 336 right when it came out. I was floored. I just closed my eyes and listened to the remaining bit of the song. I quickly jumped to Pink Floyd - DSOTM and then to some AC/DC and then Daft Punk, and I don't remember what else. It was then that the sale associate came to me and appologized for having to do this, but there were other customers that would like to sample the headphones. I didn't have to leave, they could grab another set of which ever headphones I wanted to spend more time with and some cds and set me up in one of their private demo rooms. I was welcome to listen as long as I wanted, even until the store closed if need be. I explained that I had heard enough at this point because now my day was ruined!

 

I had come here expecting to fall in love with the PS500's and to leave with them. Instead I found the T1's and wanted nothing more, but there was no way I could leave with a pair today. This store was asking $1400 for the T1's. I can't justify spending that much right now. But I've since found them elsewhere for almost half that price. Now I have something to look forward to enjoying. But the waiting part is gonna suck! 

 

Sorry for the long story, I just wanted to share my experience with these wonderful headphones today.

 

PS, I apologized to the sales guy and the manager for cussing like that. They both smiled and said that same thing happens more often than you would think when someone tries those headphones for the first time.


Edited by MrFaust - 5/9/14 at 8:10pm
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