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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post
 

Wow. If I had to choose between those 2 (I own both) I would have a very hard time deciding!

all dials down to preference, i just cant get used to the fitting of ciem, not because of discomfort, but i had to frequently take it off to respond to a conversation with people, and put it back. that actually happened so much it annoys me, so i prefer headphone

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Originally Posted by noobandroid View Post
 

all dials down to preference, i just cant get used to the fitting of ciem, not because of discomfort, but i had to frequently take it off to respond to a conversation with people, and put it back. that actually happened so much it annoys me, so i prefer headphone

 

Yeah, I completely agree - CIEMs are a no-go for those situations

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I've just exchanged my T5p for the T1. Cost me a bit, but I don't care.

I've been so much into my iem's that I'd forgotten how wonderful the right headphone can sound.

I can't find anything in my music (which is quite eclectic) collection that doesn't sound right with it. This is one versatile can.

Very impressed.

Very happy Bunny.

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Originally Posted by DutchGFX View Post

I might sell my Lambda Pros. I just don't listen as much as the T1. They have been in a box since the NYC meet a month ago lol. The Soloist is in a box too, as is my DIY Amp, since I've just been using the Crack + T1. I think I need to sell some tubes too, I bought a few junk 6080's and 2 Clear Top RCA 12AX7, but the Chatham 6080 and the stock 12au7 sound better than any other combo, so shucks haha
I have a Vincent KHV-1 that I use with the T1 and it is suppose to use 2 12AX7 I find with the T1 Au7 also work best. I was using RCA and now Have a set of Mullard 12AU7 that are just perfect. Dont know how they might work with your amp sounds like they might be similar.
Edited by cavedave - 4/28/14 at 1:31pm
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Edited by noobandroid - 4/29/14 at 6:56am
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Excuse me for the intrusion, but I'm a classical-mainly listener with an HD800 (9/10 - glorious but maybe just a little lacking in timbre and warmth), an HD650 (6.5/10 - beautifully comfortable, warm-hearted, but a little woolly), a Grado RS1i (7/10, good timbre, PRAT and fun. Poor soundstage. Epic fail with orchestral string bodies), a Grado SR-60i (6.5/10 - limited, but wow!) and an AKG Q701 (4.5/10 - shades of grey, disappointing). Amps: Lehmann Linear SE, Lovely Cube and Schiit Lyr. What would a T1 bring to my party?

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Originally Posted by Amictus View Post
 

Excuse me for the intrusion, but I'm a classical-mainly listener with an HD800 (9/10 - glorious but maybe just a little lacking in timbre and warmth), an HD650 (6.5/10 - beautifully comfortable, warm-hearted, but a little woolly), a Grado RS1i (7/10, good timbre, PRAT and fun. Poor soundstage. Epic fail with orchestral string bodies), a Grado SR-60i (6.5/10 - limited, but wow!) and an AKG Q701 (4.5/10 - shades of grey, disappointing). Amps: Lehmann Linear SE, Lovely Cube and Schiit Lyr. What would a T1 bring to my party?

i have the Q701 and wonder how is it disappointing to your taste, cause i liked it, well for T1, a pronounced treble, soft warm vocals and wide soundstage, it will complement wel in your list and fill the gaps

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Originally Posted by Amictus View Post
 

Excuse me for the intrusion, but I'm a classical-mainly listener with an HD800 (9/10 - glorious but maybe just a little lacking in timbre and warmth), an HD650 (6.5/10 - beautifully comfortable, warm-hearted, but a little woolly), a Grado RS1i (7/10, good timbre, PRAT and fun. Poor soundstage. Epic fail with orchestral string bodies), a Grado SR-60i (6.5/10 - limited, but wow!) and an AKG Q701 (4.5/10 - shades of grey, disappointing). Amps: Lehmann Linear SE, Lovely Cube and Schiit Lyr. What would a T1 bring to my party?

I'm also a classical mainly listener and I own both the T1 and the HD800. The T1 is great for chamber music especially when used in fully balanced mode. It is very good at  placement and presenting a 3D image for small ensembles. The T1's also bring a bit of warmth while retaining a sense of the recording space. A nice change from the very  analytical sound of the HD800. Don't get me wrong, the HD800 can sound fantastic with some chamber music and excels with orchestral music, but the T1's present a different slightly warmer picture. The treble peak I keep seeing posted has never been an issue for me. I guess it is equipment selection that makes the difference and I use the T1's in balanced mode which may also help.

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Concerning the earlier comments about the slight treble peak with the T1's (which appears to be an issue for some, but not for others), I am very sensitive to high frequencies and can get ear-ringing if I am not careful.  With certain bright recordings I did have a little bit of an issue with my T1's, but then I found this thread:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/612796/guide-how-to-properly-dampen-your-beyerdynamic-t1/195#post_9903548

 
See Andrew WOT's post number 204.
 
I followed this advice and bought the Beyerdynamic replacement pads with the acoustic foam dampening discs and it absolutely solved the treble peak issue, while still letting through the details.  
 
Very happy with the results.  No more treble peak issues.

Edited by BlakeT - 4/29/14 at 8:59am
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Originally Posted by BlakeT View Post
 

Concerning the earlier comments about the slight treble peak with the T1's (which appears to be an issue for some, but not for others), I am very sensitive to high frequencies and can get ear-ringing if I am not careful.  With certain bright recordings I did have a little bit of an issue with my T1's, but then I found this thread:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/612796/guide-how-to-properly-dampen-your-beyerdynamic-t1/195#post_9903548

 
See Andrew WOT's post number 204.
 
I followed this advice and bought the Beyerdynamic replacement pads with the acoustic foam dampening discs and it absolutely solved the treble peak issue, while still letting through the details.  
 
Very happy with the results.  No more treble peak issues.

 

This mod was also suggested to me by a fellow headfier a little while back and after I had spent some time reading all the posts I came to the conclusion after fitting some Teflon bypass capacitors to my amp that the teflons make this makes the mod unnecessary in my set up. My T1's treble extension and high mids are now sounding more detailed refined.

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Another classical listener. I've been enjoying Beethoven string quartets and symphonies most recently, and I've not felt any issues with treble peaks. 

I suppose it depends what you are used to.

 

I love the HD650 sound, but I agree that it is slightly woolly sounding. T1 is less warmer than the Senn and comparing it with the W1000X I do notice the warmer tone the T1.

 

I would agree that the T1 handles other genres of music very well too. 

 

Out of the headphones I have, I find it the most comfortable, by some margin. The velour material is soft and firm by the right amount. It does not seem to get too hot or itchy like the Hifiman velours. It will depend on the individual's ear size, but for me the ear does not touch anything inside the cup, and again this helps keeping the ears cool and comfortable.

 

I definitely rate the comfort of a headphone as very important - As you have a HD800 which I hear are also very comfortable, you're probably well aware. 

 

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Originally Posted by Amictus View Post
 

Excuse me for the intrusion, but I'm a classical-mainly listener with an HD800 (9/10 - glorious but maybe just a little lacking in timbre and warmth), an HD650 (6.5/10 - beautifully comfortable, warm-hearted, but a little woolly), a Grado RS1i (7/10, good timbre, PRAT and fun. Poor soundstage. Epic fail with orchestral string bodies), a Grado SR-60i (6.5/10 - limited, but wow!) and an AKG Q701 (4.5/10 - shades of grey, disappointing). Amps: Lehmann Linear SE, Lovely Cube and Schiit Lyr. What would a T1 bring to my party?


Edited by SunTanScanMan - 4/29/14 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by Amictus View Post

Excuse me for the intrusion, but I'm a classical-mainly listener with an HD800 (9/10 - glorious but maybe just a little lacking in timbre and warmth), an HD650 (6.5/10 - beautifully comfortable, warm-hearted, but a little woolly), a Grado RS1i (7/10, good timbre, PRAT and fun. Poor soundstage. Epic fail with orchestral string bodies), a Grado SR-60i (6.5/10 - limited, but wow!) and an AKG Q701 (4.5/10 - shades of grey, disappointing). Amps: Lehmann Linear SE, Lovely Cube and Schiit Lyr. What would a T1 bring to my party?

I have both. The HD800 is my favorite headphone for classical music due to the soundstage scale, air and broad midrange. Violins in particular have the proper timbre.
I prefer the T1 for other genres, mainly acoustical or small ensemble jazz with vocals. If you are mainly a classical music listener and already have the HD800 then I don't think the T1 brings anything to the table. Just my personal opinion of course.
Edited by vlach - 4/29/14 at 12:03pm
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Just poking my head in to say hello! New T1 owner...SN 14299 ...loving it so far :)

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Hello new T1 owner
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Originally Posted by vlach View Post


I have both. The HD800 is my favorite headphone for classical music due to the soundstage scale, air and broad midrange. Violins in particular have the proper timbre.
I prefer the T1 for other genres, mainly acoustical or small ensemble jazz with vocals. If you are mainly a classical music listener and already have the HD800 then I don't think the T1 brings anything to the table. Just my personal opinion of course.

Honestly I felt the same as you when I was using my T1's se on tube amps (WA2). The HD800 simply presented a larger more convincing sound stage. Then I changed over to an all balanced system and added an xlr to my T1's (simple mod) and I no longer felt the T1's were lacking in sound stage. I do find that the T1's have a more gentle approach to presenting acoustic instruments while the HD800 gives a sharper more etched presentation. I guess you could say the T1's sound a bit more forgiving but with only the slightest loss of fine detail in comparison. Obviously it is a different presentation or there would be no point in having two headphones. To say that one is clearly superior I think is more a matter of equipment synergy. The one very special thing the T1's do is to present an amazing sense of depth and layering on well recorded music.

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