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post #6331 of 7895
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

I tend to agree. They chose a great cable, great connector, and good strain reliefs so why make it interchangeable? I like to be able to change cables, but only if the original one is a performance bottleneck (which the T1's isn't ) especially because it's so easy to re-terminate for balanced use.

Here you go, I'd rather get off the shelf plug-and-play XLR cable than reterminating stock one and voiding warranty.

Yes, it's easy to do if you have very basic DIY skills and soldering iron, but not everyone is handy here. 

post #6332 of 7895
Fair point
post #6333 of 7895
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Originally Posted by perhapss View Post
 

 

Well for me it's even stranger that I don't think it's an oversight at all.

Everything is meticulously designed on the T1 so why would they plan it that way?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

I tend to agree. They chose a great cable, great connector, and good strain reliefs so why make it interchangeable? I like to be able to change cables, but only if the original one is a performance bottleneck (which the T1's isn't ) especially because it's so easy to re-terminate for balanced use.

 

What happens if the cable gets damaged or becomes faulty? Can't say I'm keen on sending the entire thing back just for a new cable.

post #6334 of 7895

I have to agree that the stock cable seems perfect for my purposes. It's a great length, it's not too rigid and it's of high quality. I would be hesitant  to tinker with it. Especially since there would most likely be negligible benefits. 

post #6335 of 7895
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Originally Posted by leng jai View Post
 

 

 

 

What happens if the cable gets damaged or becomes faulty? Can't say I'm keen on sending the entire thing back just for a new cable.

 

My sentiments exactly.

post #6336 of 7895
The only issues that are likely to occur with a well engineered cable are due to physical damage. There's just as much chance of physical damage to the driver housings, headband and other bits and pieces that can't be replaced by the user. Cable connectors for detachable cables cam be their own source of problems such as cracked housings, etc.

Either way, I'm not saying I'm right or you're wrong and changing cables can be great fun, but it could just as easily have been a conscious design decision as an oversight.
post #6337 of 7895
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

The only issues that are likely to occur with a well engineered cable are due to physical damage. There's just as much chance of physical damage to the driver housings, headband and other bits and pieces that can't be replaced by the user. Cable connectors for detachable cables cam be their own source of problems such as cracked housings, etc.

Either way, I'm not saying I'm right or you're wrong and changing cables can be great fun, but it could just as easily have been a conscious design decision as an oversight.

 

Well I hate changing cables and for my modest setup the performance is very good.

As I said I too believe it wasn't oversight that the cable was designed to be as is.

I still think it's a bad idea.

 

I will say this regarding propriety cables:

 I'm not young.

Over my life I've owned a lot of electronic products.

In many of these products the cable had problems WAY before there was any other problems with attached gear.

post #6338 of 7895

A plug to a nice guy from the sale forums. He's selling his recabled T1's for 650$ That's quite the steal. Search for Nierika.

post #6339 of 7895
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Originally Posted by Drazalas View Post
 

A plug to a nice guy from the sale forums. He's selling his recabled T1's for 650$ That's quite the steal. Search for Nierika.

 

Great deal indeed.

post #6340 of 7895

I really don't got it , but T1's render method of texture remind me my old DT990.

(My 990 review here)

 

Clarity, smooth and lush present, with  stunned airiness , or some special kind of virtue  other dynamic headphone lack.

 

I believe that's because T1's really excellent transient response.

 

If separate the whole "transient response"  into three stage: attack,steady and decay.

I would say It has the purest attack i ever hear form dynamic headphone,  and gently steady: this part somehow effect merely coloration we can feel.

 

More important is decay:  it has some kind of diffused render, make headphone's sound more like "come from really room/space".

 

So Beyerdynamic' simple goal is: a dynamic headphone/ a sound transducer  would disappear when you listen music, and makes all more believable. 

 

── And it make me speechless now.


Edited by donthuang - 1/13/14 at 8:22am
post #6341 of 7895

T1 has penetrating clarity....

the notes get thru my earwax every time :P

post #6342 of 7895

I still can't sell my damn HD800's/Trade them lol. I just want them out so I can continue to improve my T1 setup. I think I wanna get a new DAC (Music Fidelity M1DAC is what I have now) but I'm not sure which higher-up DAC has a similar sound sig. Thinking maybe DA8 or X-Sabre. Not sure though, anyone else heard the M1DAC?

post #6343 of 7895
I can recommend the X-Sabre. It's musical, but not warm. To me it pairs well with a smoother amp if using T1s.

Also, don't forget you can sell your HD800s to me if you find yourself lowering the price later... ;-)
post #6344 of 7895
Lol but is it punchy enough? I listen to pretty intense music and that aggressiveness is key. And PS if it doesn't sell at its current price I will lower it tomorrow most likely
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Originally Posted by DutchGFX View Post

Lol but is it punchy enough? I listen to pretty intense music and that aggressiveness is key. And PS if it doesn't sell at its current price I will lower it tomorrow most likely

 

The X-Sabre is quick. I've read one review where the reviewer thought it was too quick and didn't have enough weight in the notes (IIRC). It's not punchy in terms of bass because it's very neutral to my ears, but it's got the speed and edge to really rock with edgier tracks, guitars, percussion, etc.

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