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post #6241 of 10477
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

Just different, similar but different to the degree you might want both.

HD800 airy, delicate, uber-spacious with incredible amount of details, T1 bold, perhaps more aggressive, closed in and intimate, better choice for less than stellar rock recordings.
Microscope vs magnifying glass. Technically HD800 is clearly superior (I do no wrong), T1 could be more emotional. That's just my personal perception.

 

+1

 

You nailed it! That's exactly how I perceive them as well.

post #6242 of 10477
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

Just different, similar but different to the degree you might want both.

HD800 airy, delicate, uber-spacious with incredible amount of details, T1 bold, perhaps more aggressive, closed in and intimate, better choice for less than stellar rock recordings.
Microscope vs magnifying glass. Technically HD800 is clearly superior (I do no wrong), T1 could be more emotional. That's just my personal perception.

very nicely put...+2

post #6243 of 10477
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Originally Posted by DoctaCosmos View Post
 

pretty sure my he-400 gave me tinnitus in my right ear.  what concerns me is that i've listened to headphones for many years and never had any problems.  I got my wisdom teeth pulled on my right side and ever since my right ear has been most picky about volume and treble.  I think the 400 brought out the worst of it.

 

I had a similar experience, but had multiple things going on. Turns out I had infected wisdom teeth (now removed) as well as a back / neck problem that caused a case of Bell's Palsy and some tinnitus that came along with it. It might be worth going to see a chiro because the TMJ (joint where the jaw meets the skull) can cause the tinnitus. The removal of wisdom teeth can do bad things to our jaw alignment with all the pulling and pushing they have to do.

 

Of course, ear fatigue is also an issue in my experience so some rest for your ears would also be helpful.


Edited by Loquah - 1/7/14 at 8:55pm
post #6244 of 10477
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

Just different, similar but different to the degree you might want both.

HD800 airy, delicate, uber-spacious with incredible amount of details, T1 bold, perhaps more aggressive, closed in and intimate, better choice for less than stellar rock recordings.
Microscope vs magnifying glass. Technically HD800 is clearly superior (I do no wrong), T1 could be more emotional. That's just my personal perception.

And while I agree to a certain degree, I don't believe the T1 is anywhere near as far off from the HD800 in most of the above areas. I had the HD800 for a period and didn't walk away with nearly the impression that some do. To each his own I guess. For me, the T1 hits all of the marks that matter the most. And by the way, the spacious atmosphere that people claim the HD800 produces is only slightly better than most top level open headphones. If you want real space you need a Smyth Realiser or a speaker setup. 


Edited by GardenVariety - 1/7/14 at 9:14pm
post #6245 of 10477

thanks

post #6246 of 10477
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Originally Posted by DoctaCosmos View Post
 

thanks

 

You're welcome!

post #6247 of 10477
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

Just different, similar but different to the degree you might want both.

HD800 airy, delicate, uber-spacious with incredible amount of details, T1 bold, perhaps more aggressive, closed in and intimate, better choice for less than stellar rock recordings.
Microscope vs magnifying glass. Technically HD800 is clearly superior (I do no wrong), T1 could be more emotional. That's just my personal perception.

 

100% agree, excellent! 

post #6248 of 10477
I think "less stellar" recordings are gonna be slaughtered on a T1 too, these tesla drivers are clarion.
I save my ears thru tubes;)
post #6249 of 10477

I noticed awhile back someone posted an FR graph for what seemed to be the newer batches of T1s and it looked like quite an improvement, particularly in the bass and treble regions -I'm just wondering, is it possible to send older T1's back to be updated with newer drivers?

 

Thanks :)

post #6250 of 10477
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

Just different, similar but different to the degree you might want both.

HD800 airy, delicate, uber-spacious with incredible amount of details, T1 bold, perhaps more aggressive, closed in and intimate, better choice for less than stellar rock recordings.
Microscope vs magnifying glass. Technically HD800 is clearly superior (I do no wrong), T1 could be more emotional. That's just my personal perception.

+3 bang on 

post #6251 of 10477
^ accurate description
post #6252 of 10477
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Originally Posted by aive View Post
 

I noticed awhile back someone posted an FR graph for what seemed to be the newer batches of T1s and it looked like quite an improvement, particularly in the bass and treble regions -I'm just wondering, is it possible to send older T1's back to be updated with newer drivers?

 

Thanks :)

 

If I'm thinking about the same thing you are, I believe it was just a trick to see how people respond and not actually real.

post #6253 of 10477

#16912 checking in :beyersmile:

 

post #6254 of 10477
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

yea i have T1 wa2 which is great, but so is hd800/wa2. i will get to hear the gsx mk2 in the summer from 3 different sources (dacs) - looking forward to that 

 

 

remember to have a listen with wa5 if you get a chance.  i prefer my t1 with tube sound more.  much more.

post #6255 of 10477

i think the T1 is more resolving out of the GSX MK2, but the WA2 is the way to go, theres just something special a magic synergy that creates the perfect balance for the T1 with it. Unmatched by any other amp (the Glenn OTL came close and did better in some ways).

 

I did not like the Wa22 with the T1, the bass was light (though if you're looking to fix the T1's slightly recessed midrange and lushness to the mids, this is the amp to get, i don't think the T1 is supposed to sound like this though at least not for me).

 

. the GSX MK2 its just ever so slightly bright since it doesn't "tame" any of the treble of the T1, it just presents it the way it is, in many ways you can say the T1 naturally has a little too much treble, not that its a bad headphone, just needs the right amp for it. the bass on the GSX isn't also as strong as with WA2, the T1 needs colorations to sound its best and I think the WA2 has the best control of its drivers as well.

 

As for HD 800, i still prefer it on my GSX MK2 with the WA2 to come second. The WA22 was slightly better than the WA2 with the HD 800, but only after completely maxing out the tubes (GEC 6AS7G power tubes, Western Electric 422A or U52, and TS 6F8G drivers). The WA2 was also slightly more musical, at the expense of being slightly less detailed and having a smaller sound stage.

 

to be honest, after the WA2 was sold, I haven't listened to the T1 that much at all, they sound good, but theres something missing. Or maybe i've just gotten used to the extra bass the HE-6 and LCD-3 give you. also the HD 800 sounds a lot better on GSX MK2 (it scales higher).


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 1/8/14 at 3:20pm
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