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post #6181 of 7966
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Originally Posted by DoctaCosmos View Post
 

I use a Peachtree Audio DAC*IT and a Schiit Asgard.  The Asgard is 1ohm output so it's out of the question if i decide to go T-1, 800.  That's why i am considering an amp that has different impedance options such as the vio or the burson. I listen to everything and have high bit rate recordings.  Thanks for the input about how the amp won't change the headphone. 

You say that i can get higher quality recordings and i won't be subjected to the the harshness does that mean that the T-1 is harsh and fatiguing if i don't play better recorded music?

I suppose i wouldn't mind getting a 650 for pop and genres like that as those genres are only sometimes fun to me and vocal, acoustic, live and orchestra are the music that melts me enough to engage in this high dollar hobby.


Sometimes the quality of the recording does not scale up with their bit rate. You have have very nice CD recordings that has no sibilance at all, and you could have bad high res recordings that sounds like crap. But, in general, higher resolution recordings are good recordings in the first place. I think harsh fatiguing sounds varies from recordings to recordings, so I cannot say for sure that T1 will sound harsh for all your collections. 

 

As for me, I never found acoustic, live and orchestra sound harsh at all due to the nature of how they recording things. Vocal is the one that sometimes troubles me, with most Jazz that recorded in a room, I found no problem with treble. But with some other tracks that recorded in the studio, sometimes "S" and "Ch" sound will kick in too strong and make your ear uncomfortable.

 

As I have stated, with high quality recordings, the treble should not be a issues to you. (please do not try Eminem  on T1, last time I did, I stop listens to music for a week~~~ )

post #6182 of 7966

lol thanks, i completely understand what you're saying and that's why if "T-1 is harsh and fatiguing if i don't play better recorded music?"  better recorded not higher resolution.  i suppose i could have specified.  Thank you though! i think i will be able to handle the t-1's highs. the problem i'm having now with my he-400 is that the body of the highs is tremendous paired with forward highs and no room for dynamics to breath they are doing nothing other than torturing my ears. 

Now after reading a lot i'm concerned that my ears might actually prefer a slightly darker sound and i'm not sure if the T-1 could fit that bill.  Is that something that a tube amp could fill in or is that just a characteristic of the t-1 in general?

post #6183 of 7966
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Originally Posted by DoctaCosmos View Post
 

lol thanks, i completely understand what you're saying and that's why if "T-1 is harsh and fatiguing if i don't play better recorded music?"  better recorded not higher resolution.  i suppose i could have specified.  Thank you though! i think i will be able to handle the t-1's highs. the problem i'm having now with my he-400 is that the body of the highs is tremendous paired with forward highs and no room for dynamics to breath they are doing nothing other than torturing my ears.

Now after reading a lot i'm concerned that my ears might actually prefer a slightly darker sound and i'm not sure if the T-1 could fit that bill.  Is that something that a tube amp could fill in or is that just a characteristic of the t-1 in general?

Is everyone saying that T1 is harsher than HD800?  At one point I had a chance to audition a brand new HD800 in my home setup and found my ear drums pierced by its treble/sibilance. After at least 20 hours of burn-in nothing changed. I couldn't handle it, so it became the T1 for me. Not to say these aren't bright, but I don't find them as piercing compared to HD800.

post #6184 of 7966
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Originally Posted by Digitalchkn View Post
 

Is everyone saying that T1 is harsher than HD800?  At one point I had a chance to audition a brand new HD800 in my home setup and found my ear drums pierced by its treble/sibilance. After at least 20 hours of burn-in nothing changed. I couldn't handle it, so it became the T1 for me. Not to say these aren't bright, but I don't find them as piercing compared to HD800.

 

To my ears, the T1 is brighter but at the same time has smoother highs than the HD800.  Depends to the music they both could be harsh or have sibilance, IMO.

post #6185 of 7966
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

To my ears, the T1 is brighter but at the same time has smoother highs than the HD800.  Depends to the music they both could be harsh or have sibilance, IMO.

I pretty much agree with this statement, but I would say the T1 is not so much brighter, but just a tad bit grainy compared to HD-800. I think that is the operative word here. 

post #6186 of 7966
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

I pretty much agree with this statement, but I would say the T1 is not so much brighter, but just a tad bit grainy compared to HD-800. I think that is the operative word here.

Come to think of it, I agree. I thought quality of the treble on HD-800 was better compared to the T1. But the amount of mid-treble (maybe 7-10KHz) on HD800 just seemed to be outright excessive. Perhaps, I needed a longer burn-in cycle for things to settle?

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I'm loving all the comparisons in this thread! I have another one to request...

I currently have T1s and Bottlehead Crack, SEX and Mainline amps. I now want a new headphone to complement the T1 but don't know if I should go for LCD2 r2, HD800 or HE-500. I lusten to all genres, but mostly rock and blues.
post #6188 of 7966
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

I'm loving all the comparisons in this thread! I have another one to request...

I currently have T1s and Bottlehead Crack, SEX and Mainline amps. I now want a new headphone to complement the T1 but don't know if I should go for LCD2 r2, HD800 or HE-500. I lusten to all genres, but mostly rock and blues.

 

I chose the HD800 to complement my T1, the LCD2 is also a good choose but the HE-500 is virtually irrelevant when you have a T1, IMHO.

post #6189 of 7966
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post

I chose the HD800 to complement my T1, the LCD2 is also a good choose but the HE-500 is virtually irrelevant when you have a T1, IMHO.

Are the HD800s different enough? They are what I wanted, but I was worried they would duplicate the T1 too much
post #6190 of 7966
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post


Are the HD800s different enough? They are what I wanted, but I was worried they would duplicate the T1 too much

To me they are different. I use my HD800 for classical, new age and acoustic music, and use the T1 for rock and jazz. The LCD2s are more different though. 

post #6191 of 7966

i would pick the LCD2 to complement the T1... ice cream vs wine. 

post #6192 of 7966
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

i would pick the LCD2 to complement the T1... ice cream vs wine. 

 

I like that band, "Ice Cream and Wine".

post #6193 of 7966
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post

I chose the HD800 to complement my T1, the LCD2 is also a good choose but the HE-500 is virtually irrelevant when you have a T1, IMHO.

+1
post #6194 of 7966
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

i would pick the LCD2 to complement the T1... ice cream vs wine. 

I would pick the HD800 to complement the T1...Irish whiskey vs single malt smily_headphones1.gif
post #6195 of 7966
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

i would pick the LCD2 to complement the T1... ice cream vs wine. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by vlach View Post


I would pick the HD800 to complement the T1...Irish whiskey vs single malt smily_headphones1.gif

 

 

While both sound very tasty, I'm inclined to go for the Ice Cream to have as dessert when I don't feel like whiskey... :beyersmile: :o2smile:

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