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I sent an email to Beyerdynamic to ask about the bass issue (and a few more questions) so hopefully they are able to provide more information (also - I see "bdusa" has posted an announcement thread about the T70p/T70 so maybe someone could be reached via that username). I have #1248 which I purchased already recabled from Moon-Audio and it's hard for me to describe them as bass-light or bass-heavy (from memory, the bass is a little less than a pair of HD 650s).


Edited by nierika - 7/1/11 at 11:40am
post #617 of 10479

doubt theyd admit releasing 2 versions if they did. they will probably say that this is the first they have heard of the issue.

post #618 of 10479

They have never answered my emails.  I've phoned them and spoken w/one of the guys.  They really didn't know much about the T-1.  When I asked about the headband and having it replaced (as they are supposedly doing in Germany)  I had to call back a few times until I got a no answer.
 

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Originally Posted by nierika View Post

I sent an email to Beyerdynamic to ask about the bass issue (and a few more questions) so hopefully they are able to provide more information (also - I see "bdusa" has posted an announcement thread about the T70p/T70 so maybe someone could be reached via that username). I have #1248 which I purchased already recabled from Moon-Audio and it's hard for me to describe them as bass-light or bass-heavy (from memory, the bass is a little less than a pair of HD 650s).



 

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doubt theyd admit releasing 2 versions if they did. they will probably say that this is the first they have heard of the issue.


Probably -- in fact, I kind of doubt that they really did intentionally release two different "versions" so to speak.  It might just be, as Skylab said, manufacturing variation that we're hearing -- although if that's the case, the variation is pretty large.  Beyerdynamic probably wouldn't want to admit that either if that's the case.

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Thread Starter 

I have e-mailed Pete from Beyerdynamic USA and we'll see what is going on here. I think the differences in sound is because of different batches of drivers. Anyways I have the bass heavy version which has almost the same amount of bass as my DT990/600Ohm.

 

Anyways I finally made a 4 pin XLR to 1/4" adapter and plugged my T1's in directly into my heavily modded WA3+ and it powers the T1 much better than my ROC, but I like the ROC because of how transparent it is and the soundstage on it rocks!!

post #621 of 10479

did you mod the WA3 yourself or have woo do it?

 

i have the lyr right now but always wondered how the WA3 sounds

post #622 of 10479
Thread Starter 

I had a local guy here mod it for me. Nothing in side the WA3+ is stock anymore. I would say with the mods it comes near WA2 performance. That may be an overstatement but it's much better than the stock WA3+.

 

I would think the Lyr and WA3 would be in the same range as far as performance goes (just a rough guess), but the sound between the two is probably very different. With the Tung-Sol 5998/Bugle Boy 6DJ8's my WA3+ sounds great! It has a very warm sound and still very detailed.
 

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did you mod the WA3 yourself or have woo do it?

 

i have the lyr right now but always wondered how the WA3 sounds


Edited by Zombie_X - 7/1/11 at 3:52pm
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Quote:Originally Posted by Skylab 

"I'm sorry but the idea that there are two "versions" of the T1 simultaneously is just not credible at all. Beyer would never do such a thing, it simply does not make sense. The differences must be due to normal manufacturing variances, including the possibility of course of some defective units, and differing user expectations.

It's entirely possible that they tweaked the design over time. But two different versions being made at the same time is just too far fetched."



Agreed. Unless there is documented proof that Beyer made two different simultaneous versions of the T1 it's total bunk to say otherwise. Manufacturing variances, differing perspectives, different head shapes, equpiment and individual hearing probably account for the varied experiences.

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Quote:Originally Posted by Skylab 

"I'm sorry but the idea that there are two "versions" of the T1 simultaneously is just not credible at all. Beyer would never do such a thing, it simply does not make sense. The differences must be due to normal manufacturing variances, including the possibility of course of some defective units, and differing user expectations.

It's entirely possible that they tweaked the design over time. But two different versions being made at the same time is just too far fetched."



Agreed. Unless there is documented proof that Beyer made two different simultaneous versions of the T1 it's total bunk to say otherwise. Manufacturing variances, differing perspectives, different head shapes, equpiment and individual hearing probably account for the varied experiences.


I would think with their "German attention to detail and quality" we could rule out manufacturing variations. I'm sure that beyerdynamics have a very thorough manufacturing process (these are built in Germany) and an even more thorough testing process.
post #625 of 10479
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Originally Posted by Icenine2 View Post

I finally heard back from beyer about the replacement headbands.  It is a no go according to them.  You'd have to have a 2600 Serial number or higher for that or then you need to replace the whole deal part# 908053.



Hi Lcenine,

is this the exact threshold? As an owner of #2614 (comes with old headband) I am able to replace? (that's luck...)

post #626 of 10479

That's what they told me.  This was after 3 emails unanswered and 3 phone calls.

post #627 of 10479

Hey everyone at this thread!  Here's my idea:  It's 4th of July weekend and nobody is doing much anyway.  So how about we gas up the Head-fi Jet and pickup everyone here and there w/your T-1 headphones and we compare them all.  How about we put the Jet down in Aspen.  Really nice there this time of year.

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Hey everyone at this thread!  Here's my idea:  It's 4th of July weekend and nobody is doing much anyway.  So how about we gas up the Head-fi Jet and pickup everyone here and there w/your T-1 headphones and we compare them all.  How about we put the Jet down in Aspen.  Really nice there this time of year.



LOL. I had a 2265 and now a 46xxx and they sound pretty much the same except the newer model has  a different headband and the cup pads are more comfortable than the older pair but sonically I notice no differences except these are still burning in but the T1 is the same. Now if you have a jet and want to pick us Philly dudes up I can say I am in as long as it has internet radio and maybe wait tiltongue_smile.gifl August when the T70 comes out.

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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post

Quote:Originally Posted by Skylab 

"I'm sorry but the idea that there are two "versions" of the T1 simultaneously is just not credible at all. Beyer would never do such a thing, it simply does not make sense. The differences must be due to normal manufacturing variances, including the possibility of course of some defective units, and differing user expectations.

It's entirely possible that they tweaked the design over time. But two different versions being made at the same time is just too far fetched."



Agreed. Unless there is documented proof that Beyer made two different simultaneous versions of the T1 it's total bunk to say otherwise. Manufacturing variances, differing perspectives, different head shapes, equpiment and individual hearing probably account for the varied experiences.


 

I wrote to Beyer about it too.  They would only acknowledge the headband change.

 

I would agree with you completely if there weren't so many people coming forward in this thread to verify that they have or had a bass heavy or bass light version.  <shrug>  I'm afraid that's the only proof you're going to see......  But if our small sampling is any indication of what's going on world wide, there's a lot of bass light cans out there that maybe should be recalled. <shrug>

 

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I would think with their "German attention to detail and quality" we could rule out manufacturing variations. I'm sure that beyerdynamics have a very thorough manufacturing process (these are built in Germany) and an even more thorough testing process.


You'd certainly think that Peter.


Edited by upstateguy - 7/1/11 at 7:32pm
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You'd certainly think that Peter.

Could by my German wife and in-laws? tongue.gif
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