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Originally Posted by Graphicism View Post

 

There could be some truth to the possibility of multiple versions or perhaps the more likely scenario of grossly varying units. Having read a good chunk of T1 reviews I was expecting something completely different when I auditioned the T1, instead what I heard was another bass dominant Beyer. I did not compare it with my DT880 directly however I instantly noticed the bass was more upfront and prominent which set the mids and highs back a little.
 
In short I prefer my 880 which was a bit of a downer as I was expecting that next 'step up' in audio quality.


That's exactly the way my new T-1s sounded out of the box.    Where and when did you audition them?

 

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Originally Posted by Poetik View Post

From owning the T1, I've noticed that the it sounds overly bright and bass light when they aren't properly amped. 



That sounds like the bass light versions that I had the first time around.....  the replacement T-1s have a good amount of bass with any amp I plug them into..... (unlike the first ones)

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That sounds like the bass light versions that I had the first time around.....  the replacement T-1s have a good amount of bass with any amp I plug them into..... (unlike the first ones)


I'm not really sure what to say about that but both pairs that I've owned so far, in the 1000's, sounded similar and underpowered.  Then again the first time I listened to them I only had a modded wa6 and the 2nd time I only have a nfb-11 to listen to it with.  I get my EF5 next week which should power it decently but I don't expect too much from it. 

 

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Originally Posted by Poetik View Post

From owning the T1, I've noticed that the it sounds overly bright and bass light when they aren't properly amped. 


That would seem to make sense, but that didn't mirror my own experience.  My first T1 (13xx) sounded bassier and less bright, and I was running it in a sub-optimal pairing with a solid state amp.  My second T1 (19xx) sounded thin and bright, but I was running it from a good OTL tube amp that should have been a much better match.  In fact, I'm starting to think that the differences I heard between the two T1s were mostly a result of the different amps I used rather than actual variations in the headphones.

 

I've tried my DT880/600 from both of these amps and they are unquestionably, vastly better on the OTL tube amp -- so you'd think the same should apply for the T1...

 

In any case, I've got a third T1 on the way (don't ask...confused_face.gif), and I'll be interested to see how it compares to the other two.

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That's exactly the way my new T-1s sounded out of the box.    Where and when did you audition them?


In England last month, the T1s in question are relatively new.

 

I am still looking to move on/up to another headphone, perhaps a happy medium between the bass-heavy and bass-light version would be more to my liking.

 

Does anyone else prefer the 880s to the T1 or is there no comparison when properly amped?

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Originally Posted by Poetik View Post

I'm not really sure what to say about that but both pairs that I've owned so far, in the 1000's, sounded similar and underpowered.  Then again the first time I listened to them I only had a modded wa6 and the 2nd time I only have a nfb-11 to listen to it with.  I get my EF5 next week which should power it decently but I don't expect too much from it. 

 


Humm, I have a WA3 that sounds pretty darn good with my T-1s so I don't know why a WA6 would sound underpowered?  My other two amps are an M^3 and a GS-1.  Both do a fine job with the new T-1s, but all three of my amps sounded bright and bass light with my original T-1s.

 



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Originally Posted by Sophonax View Post

That would seem to make sense, but that didn't mirror my own experience.  My first T1 (13xx) sounded bassier and less bright, and I was running it in a sub-optimal pairing with a solid state amp.  My second T1 (19xx) sounded thin and bright, but I was running it from a good OTL tube amp that should have been a much better match.  In fact, I'm starting to think that the differences I heard between the two T1s were mostly a result of the different amps I used rather than actual variations in the headphones.

 

I've tried my DT880/600 from both of these amps and they are unquestionably, vastly better on the OTL tube amp -- so you'd think the same should apply for the T1...

 

In any case, I've got a third T1 on the way (don't ask...confused_face.gif), and I'll be interested to see how it compares to the other two.


My bass light T-1 also sounded thin and bright from my Woo3.

 

Sounds like you've had one of each.  Good luck with the next. beerchug.gif

 



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Originally Posted by Graphicism View Post


In England last month, the T1s in question are relatively new.

 

I am still looking to move on/up to another headphone, perhaps a happy medium between the bass-heavy and bass-light version would be more to my liking.

 

Does anyone else prefer the 880s to the T1 or is there no comparison when properly amped?

 

FWIW, out of the box my replacement T-1s sounded like 650s.  Heavy bass and laid back treble.  After a number of days the treble brightened up to the level of an '03 880, (which is not as bright as the '05s I had).

 

The T-1 is much better than my '03 880, having a similar treble, more extension, resolution, bass and the spacial thing the angled drivers add.  The 880s seem almost 2 dimensional in comparison.

 

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Does anyone else prefer the 880s to the T1 or is there no comparison when properly amped?


In technical aspects, both T1s I had were significant improvements over the DT880/600 -- faster transients, cleaner sound, more detail, larger soundstage, sharper imaging, etc.  But as for tonal balance, I really like the DT880/600 -- I liked it better than my second T1 (19xx, the one that was brighter and had less bass).  On the other hand, my first T1 (13xx) had a very similar tonality to my DT880/600, so it was basically like having a technically superior DT880.

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Is it officially proofed that there are different models of the T1 concerning bass-light and bass-heavy ones?

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Originally Posted by Graphicism View Post


In England last month, the T1s in question are relatively new.

 

I am still looking to move on/up to another headphone, perhaps a happy medium between the bass-heavy and bass-light version would be more to my liking.

 

Does anyone else prefer the 880s to the T1 or is there no comparison when properly amped?


I have bot the 880 and the t1 using the same Decware CSP-2 OTL and the T1 is clearly a reference headphones much better in transparency more inner detail and the imaging is way above. the T1 competes with any headphone at any price and I have hear and owned most flagships except the Stax. This is my second go round with the T1. The 880 is a great can the 600 ohm version is what I have and in the 300.00 price range beats everything I have heard HD600 and 701 and even the HE5Le at more money but as good as it is it is not a T1. You get more refinement better bass and the best treble extension of any dynamic. The only headphone that I hear and competed with was the HE6 I owned but there is big issues with using amps with the HE6 and I have decided the T1 is my type of headphone. The 880 is redundant and I will not be keeping it.

 

post #610 of 10479

I hope not!

 

I found my T1 is not lacking of bass. But it can be a lil bit bright some others said here. And tube amp didn't do much favour.
 

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Is it officially proofed that there are different models of the T1 concerning bass-light and bass-heavy ones?



 

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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post


 


I have bot the 880 and the t1 using the same Decware CSP-2 OTL and the T1 is clearly a reference headphones much better in transparency more inner detail and the imaging is way above. the T1 competes with any headphone at any price and I have hear and owned most flagships except the Stax. This is my second go round with the T1. The 880 is a great can the 600 ohm version is what I have and in the 300.00 price range beats everything I have heard HD600 and 701 and even the HE5Le at more money but as good as it is it is not a T1. You get more refinement better bass and the best treble extension of any dynamic. The only headphone that I hear and competed with was the HE6 I owned but there is big issues with using amps with the HE6 and I have decided the T1 is my type of headphone. The 880 is redundant and I will not be keeping it.

 


Frank: your experiences completely mirror mine (except for your Stax comment, I just don't get them personally). I've had my T1s now for 18months and still absolutely love their balanced sound.
post #612 of 10479

tongue_smile.gifso you have the bass heavy version
 

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Frank: your experiences completely mirror mine (except for your Stax comment, I just don't get them personally). I've had my T1s now for 18months and still absolutely love their balanced sound.


 

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Originally Posted by monoethylene View Post

Is it officially proofed that there are different models of the T1 concerning bass-light and bass-heavy ones?



Well, not officially...but there seems to be a good amount of evidence to support the theory.

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I've owned my T-1's for six months, number 2210.  I never noticed any high/thin sound.  Yesterday I did read on the Positive Feedback article about ALO/LCD pairing that the T-1's required 100's of hours break-in.  I don't know about that since I also have a Wyred4Sound DAC that's just hit about 200 hours.  Everything continues to get better sound wise.

 

Listening to Pink Floyd's DSOTM "Us and Them" exhibits incredibly detailed bass.  Just wonderful.  So I'd never call these bass light.  I haven't listened to LCD's to compare but one or two of the guys have the same rig I do and LC's and T-1's and they say the LC bass response is killer.  The T-1's for me are incredibly detailed, great soundstage, imaging and airiness.  I can highly recommend these to anyone.

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Originally Posted by Sophonax View Post

 



Well, not officially...but there seems to be a good amount of evidence to support the theory.


Maybe I will ask BD next Monday..

 

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