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post #586 of 10477

Sorry, I forgot to mention my source: an Arcam CD73 CD player (with Tara Labs RSC Prime interconnect). I like it very much-- it's detailed yet smooth. A very well-judged and balanced sound-- not unlike what many praise in the Beyers.

post #587 of 10477
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The Burson users all had that same issue with the T1. I can honestly say I hear so much more space and  inner detail better bass and way more transparency with the T1 over the 880. The 880 are outstanding for the money. The transparency is so good on the T1 is scary. I would suggest give it a good 100-150 hrs and listen critically you may like them



Thanks. Oh yeah-- I can already tell that the T1's are a cut above.

 

post #588 of 10477
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Thanks. Oh yeah-- I can already tell that the T1's are a cut above.

 


what your serial number for curiosity mine is 4638

 

post #589 of 10477
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what your serial number for curiosity mine is 4638

 


3829

 

So far, I love the detail, and soundstage. I just hope the top end settles down and the bottom fills in a bit.
 

 

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3829

 

So far, I love the detail, and soundstage. I just hope the top end settles down and the bottom fills in a bit.
 

 


So that eliminates Upstate Guy theory that you have an old T1 which i never found any issue with mine and I believe these sound the same as the 2265 I had owned. The headband is different for sure but not sure its any more comfortable than old but the 880 is the most comfortable because of its weight and single wire jack which weighs nothing compared to the T1 cable

 

post #591 of 10477
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Thanks. Oh yeah-- I can already tell that the T1's are a cut above.
 


Just to clarify an issue:

 

Apparently the two versions, bass light and bass heavy, were released concurrently.  It doesn't seem to matter if you have a high or low serial number, you could have ended up with either one.

 

For example, MacedonianHero and Skylab have early pairs of bassy T-1s, while Patu and myself had early bass light versions.

 

Because my new T-1s are bass heavy,  it does not necessarily mean that all new ones will be. 

 

What all the new T-1s have, however, is the new style headband.

post #592 of 10477

I had a 2265 and mine was like Rob and Peter. I think the drivers are the same so  I am not sure I would think Beyer is making two versions of the T1. I think more along the lines that yours just might have been defective. I do not think Beyer is manufacturing two versions of their flagship.

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So far, I love the detail, and soundstage. I just hope the top end settles down and the bottom fills in a bit.
 

 

 

Humm, that's exactly how I described the first ones I had.  beerchug.gif

 

Let us know if yours fills in and settles down.

 

 

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I'm sorry but the idea that there are two "versions" of the T1 simultaneously is just not credible at all. Beyer would never do such a thing, it simply does not make sense. The differences must be due to normal manufacturing variances, including the possibility of course of some defective units, and differing user expectations.

It's entirely possible that they tweaked the design over time. But two different versions being made at the same time is just too far fetched.
Edited by Skylab - 6/30/11 at 6:37pm
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I own the T-1 and the WA22 plus the Wyred4Sound DAC2.  This combo is truly spectacular.  By end of next week I hope to give you all a report on what they sound like with the Cavalli Liquid Fire amp.
 



 


Glad to hear that you think the WA22/T1 is a spectacular combination. By Tuesday, I should be able to A-B the WA22 and WA2 with my T1s. I plan on posting my thoughts by week's end.
post #596 of 10477
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I'm sorry but the idea that there are two "versions" of the T1 simultaneously is just not credible at all. Beyer would never do such a thing, it simply does not make sense. The differences must be due to normal manufacturing variances, including the possibility of course of some defective units, and differing user expectations.

It's entirely possible that they tweaked the design over time. But two different versions being made at the same time is just too far fetched.

I'm still thinking that Eric's first pair of headphones where defective from day 1.
Edited by MacedonianHero - 6/30/11 at 7:45pm
post #597 of 10477

 

There could be some truth to the possibility of multiple versions or perhaps the more likely scenario of grossly varying units. Having read a good chunk of T1 reviews I was expecting something completely different when I auditioned the T1, instead what I heard was another bass dominant Beyer. I did not compare it with my DT880 directly however I instantly noticed the bass was more upfront and prominent which set the mids and highs back a little.
 
In short I prefer my 880 which was a bit of a downer as I was expecting that next 'step up' in audio quality.
post #598 of 10477

I suspect that you will experience the new openness (less congestion), wider soundstage, and higher dynamic range coming from the fully balanced system.  wink_face.gif  (You did re-terminate your T1, don't you?)
 

Please keep us updated.

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Glad to hear that you think the WA22/T1 is a spectacular combination. By Tuesday, I should be able to A-B the WA22 and WA2 with my T1s. I plan on posting my thoughts by week's end.


 

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I'm sorry but the idea that there are two "versions" of the T1 simultaneously is just not credible at all. Beyer would never do such a thing, it simply does not make sense. The differences must be due to normal manufacturing variances, including the possibility of course of some defective units, and differing user expectations.

It's entirely possible that they tweaked the design over time. But two different versions being made at the same time is just too far fetched.


As far fetched as it sounds, there have been two different versions around for a long time.  I am not the only one to have received the bass lite versions.  There have been many reports of overly bright, bass light T-1s since their release.  Arcamera is just the latest one to report exactly the same thing.

 

I would like to reject manufacturing variances because the differences between bass heavy and the bass light headphones are too great, but I suppose that it's possible that all the overly bright, bass light T-1s that have been reported could actually be defective headphones.  If that is the case, there are a lot of them out there and perhaps the people who got stuck with them could be alerted to contact Beyer for replacements via their 2 year warranty. 

 

 

post #600 of 10477

From owning the T1, I've noticed that the it sounds overly bright and bass light when they aren't properly amped. 

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