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Originally Posted by mentt View Post

Can anybody comment if upgrade from Alo Pan Am to WA2 or CSP2+ will be worth it?

Don't know about the Pan Am but I upgraded from Meier Audio Jazz to WA2 and it was totally worth it. Additional clarity and presence. I think if you're planning to stick with the T1s, the WA2 is a wise investment.

If you're looking to add orthos to your headphone collection I'd consider a more versatile amp to save you upgrading your amp again. Spend a bit more upfront to save later on.
Edited by aive - 7/28/13 at 2:23am
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Don't know about the Pan Am but I upgraded from Meier Audio Jazz to WA2 and it was totally worth it. Additional clarity and presence. I think if you're planning to stick with the T1s, the WA2 is a wise investment.

If you're looking to add orthos to your headphone collection I'd consider a more versatile amp to save you upgrading your amp again. Spend a bit more upfront to save later on.

I already have LCD2s that I am also using with Pan Am. And yes, I am planing to stick with T1s. I am leaning towards WA2, but I am also considering CSP2+.

Can anybody comment on CSP2+ vs WA2 for T1?

At the moment I am deciding wich DAC will be best option/match for T1. Any suggestion? 


Edited by mentt - 7/28/13 at 5:21am
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I already have LCD2s that I am also using with Pan Am. And yes, I am planing to stick with T1s. I am leaning towards WA2, but I am also considering CSP2+.

Can anybody comment on CSP2+ vs WA2 for T1?

At the moment I am deciding wich DAC will be best option/match for T1. Any suggestion? 

Whats your price range for the DAC?

Do you require USB input?

Do you want to play back 24/192 and higher?

Do you require XLR output?

Do you require additional features, such as, pre-amp, filter options, etc.?

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Which DAC is best match with T1?

I will replace internal DAC of Alo Pan Am with it and will probably buy WA2 or CSP2+ AMP in the near future. I was thinking  of yulong D18. By the way which AMP is better choice for T1, WA2 or CSP2+? I was thinking also about Meier Daccorda/Classic combo, but I am afraid that T1 will sound thin with this combo. What about Daccorda + WA2 or CSP2+? Can anybody comment if upgrade from Alo Pan Am to WA2 or CSP2+ will be worth it?

T1 definitely sound neither thin nor warm, with meier classic at least. It is a very clear and slightly energetic sound with tight and punchy bass. I haven't heard much of other amps to compare.  Again, it will depend on your perception of being thin. If you compare T1 with, say HE-500, both driven by classic, T1 will sound thin in comparison to HE500.

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Whats your price range for the DAC?

Do you require USB input?

Do you want to play back 24/192 and higher?

Do you require XLR output?

Do you require additional features, such as, pre-amp, filter options, etc.?

 

Whats your price range for the DAC? = <1200$
Do you require USB input? = Yes
Do you want to play back 24/192 and higher? = NO
Do you require XLR output? NO
Do you require additional features, such as, pre-amp, filter options, etc.? NO
post #4956 of 7966
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Originally Posted by mentt View Post

 

Whats your price range for the DAC? = <1200$
Do you require USB input? = Yes
Do you want to play back 24/192 and higher? = NO
Do you require XLR output? NO
Do you require additional features, such as, pre-amp, filter options, etc.? NO

I would recommend the Jkenny Ciunas DAC and SPDIF converter combo.

 

Impressions here

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Originally Posted by brunk View Post

I would recommend the Jkenny Ciunas DAC and SPDIF converter combo.

 

Impressions here

Did you auditioned this DAC your self? What are your impressions? Yulong D18 vs Jkenny Ciunas DAC?


Edited by mentt - 7/28/13 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post

I would recommend the Jkenny Ciunas DAC and SPDIF converter combo.

 

Impressions here

 

This ^^^^  Also another real good choice would be the Metrum Octave mkII.  I heard it this weekend.  And yeah - It's a good one.

 

I will have the JK Ciunas DAC in a week or so.  

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Originally Posted by brunk View Post

I would recommend the Jkenny Ciunas DAC and SPDIF converter combo.

 

Impressions here

Is there need to buy both units(converter and dac)? Does not Ciunas DAC do the same think as converter except that it also have DAC section?

From product website:

" It essentially incorporates the same USB technology as the Ciúnas USB converter but feeds an I2S signal to a PCM5102 BB/TI DAC chip. The PCM5102 DAC sounds superior to the ESS Sabre DAC ES9023 used in one of my previous DAC products. "

 

https://sites.google.com/site/jkciunas/ciunas-dac

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Originally Posted by mentt View Post

I already have LCD2s that I am also using with Pan Am. And yes, I am planing to stick with T1s. I am leaning towards WA2, but I am also considering CSP2+.

Can anybody comment on 
CSP2+ vs WA2 for T1?

At the moment I am deciding wich DAC will be best option/match for T1. Any suggestion? 

could try asking skylab i think he owned both csp2+ and wa2 at one point
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Which would sound better with the T1's. The Meier classic/daccord stack or the WA 7?
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tubes tubes tubes...:P

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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

tubes tubes tubes...:P

+1

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Originally Posted by SpitxFire22 View Post

Which would sound better with the T1's. The Meier classic/daccord stack or the WA 7?

I actually did a cost comparison prior to buying the Meier stack.  Bottom line WA 7 could be a better sounding combo in the end but at the cost of upgrading to more expensive tubes.  I prefer the simplicity of solid state.  I already went thru several rounds of tube rolling with a cheaper amp.  Frankly the Meier sounds amazing.  No long warm up prior to listening and no second guessing about which tubes to upgrade up to.

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Originally Posted by RUMAY408 View Post

I actually did a cost comparison prior to buying the Meier stack.  Bottom line WA 7 could be a better sounding combo in the end but at the cost of upgrading to more expensive tubes.  I prefer the simplicity of solid state.  I already went thru several rounds of tube rolling with a cheaper amp.  Frankly the Meier sounds amazing.  No long warm up prior to listening and no second guessing about which tubes to upgrade up to.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't the tube upgrades for the WA7 cheap and i don't think there are even that many. 

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