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post #4936 of 7819

any one know some good sub 200 dollar tube amps for T1?

Want to give the tube a try before pull some big decision on it~~~~~

 

I have never used tube amps before, and last time it was a Hifiman (I believed the old flag ship something 5) with the T1. I was very very disappointed with the sound. very recessive mid with very muddy lower mid rage . The bass has quantity but very lack of control. The high, is not thing like a high T1 will have on my RPX35.

 

My friend told me that it is just the amp and generally tubes sounds much better. Since there are so many tube lover in forum that has the T1, I am asking for some advice.

 

P.S.

I already have a decent dac and SS amp with a decent SSD dac+amp system. So, what I am trying to do is to have a taste of what good synergy tube amp will do to a dynamic drive that has some over emphasis in the highs.

 

Thanks

post #4937 of 7819
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Originally Posted by AlanHell View Post

any one know some good sub 200 dollar tube amps for T1?

Want to give the tube a try before pull some big decision on it~~~~~

 

I have never used tube amps before, and last time it was a Hifiman (I believed the old flag ship something 5) with the T1. I was very very disappointed with the sound. very recessive mid with very muddy lower mid rage . The bass has quantity but very lack of control. The high, is not thing like a high T1 will have on my RPX35.

 

My friend told me that it is just the amp and generally tubes sounds much better. Since there are so many tube lover in forum that has the T1, I am asking for some advice.

 

P.S.

I already have a decent dac and SS amp with a decent SSD dac+amp system. So, what I am trying to do is to have a taste of what good synergy tube amp will do to a dynamic drive that has some over emphasis in the highs.

 

Thanks

I dont think that hifiman amp was made to drive the T1 which is 600-1400 ohms eek.gif but rather the low impedance orthos, and what you desribed is typical or poor damping. Anyways, on to some recommendations, obviously they wont be stellar amp but here it goes:

 

used bellari ha540 $224

LittleDot MKII $175 shipped

LittleDot MKIII $244 shipped

Bottlehead Crack $279

 

There's a few more in that price range but i am really hesitant to recommend them because they have such low output power for the T1. Honestly though, you're better off spending the little extra on the BH Crack because you can upgrade it later with speedball kit, or just sell for a profit and come out with your feet wet in the DIY audio world. Just my .02

 

Hope that helps.

post #4938 of 7819

WA3 or WA2!

post #4939 of 7819
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WA3 or WA2!

Haha yes of course, but i want to know where you find one for $200 cool.gif

post #4940 of 7819
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post

I dont think that hifiman amp was made to drive the T1 which is 600-1400 ohms eek.gif but rather the low impedance orthos, and what you desribed is typical or poor damping. Anyways, on to some recommendations, obviously they wont be stellar amp but here it goes:

 

used bellari ha540 $224

LittleDot MKII $175 shipped

LittleDot MKIII $244 shipped

Bottlehead Crack $279

 

There's a few more in that price range but i am really hesitant to recommend them because they have such low output power for the T1. Honestly though, you're better off spending the little extra on the BH Crack because you can upgrade it later with speedball kit, or just sell for a profit and come out with your feet wet in the DIY audio world. Just my .02

 

Hope that helps.


Thanks, that is very helpful. But what I heard about littledot is that there are not very reliable, is that true?

post #4941 of 7819
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There's a few more in that price range but i am really hesitant to recommend them because they have such low output power for the T1. Honestly though, you're better off spending the little extra on the BH Crack because you can upgrade it later with speedball kit, or just sell for a profit and come out with your feet wet in the DIY audio world. Just my .02

 

 

 

The bottlehead would be an excellent choice for the price range. Keep in mind, that you won't be able to sell the assembled kit for a profit here on head-fi though. 

post #4942 of 7819

Before I got my HDVD800 I was trying to get the WA22 but the tubes scare me away. Always afraid that they are going to break or burn my hands~~~~~

 

Since people says that when you go beyound $800, the improvement of sound you get is going to be scale much much worse with the money you spend. I think for the first time of my life, I am going to start small with budget amps~~~~~~

post #4943 of 7819
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Thanks, that is very helpful. But what I heard about littledot is that there are not very reliable, is that true?

I wouldn't say that they are unreliable, maybe just a little. Their warranty service is good though if you run into problems.

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The bottlehead would be an excellent choice for the price range. Keep in mind, that you won't be able to sell the assembled kit for a profit here on head-fi though. 

Yeah you may not be able to here on Head-Fi, but other places you can. Even if you do re-sell it here, the loss is minimal compared to LittleDot and others alike. At least, you would gain invaluable DIY experience.


Edited by brunk - 7/27/13 at 3:47pm
post #4944 of 7819
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The bottlehead would be an excellent choice for the price range. Keep in mind, that you won't be able to sell the assembled kit for a profit here on head-fi though. 

Speaking from personal experience the Bellari for its price range is good, but to get it to the next level the stock tube just doesn't cut it.  I had to upgrade with a vintage Telefunken tube. By the time you start adding in upgraded tubes you can literally double the amp price.

post #4945 of 7819
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Originally Posted by RUMAY408 View Post

Speaking from personal experience the Bellari for its price range is good, but to get it to the next level the stock tube just doesn't cut it.  I had to upgrade with a vintage Telefunken tube. By the time you start adding in upgraded tubes you can literally double the amp price.

Yeah I own one as well, it does take some work to get it decent and by the time you're done, you could have bought something better. Same goes for the BH Crack too if you get addicted to tube rolling lol.

post #4946 of 7819

i had resale littledot mk3, worked fine for a year...sold it n moved up to mk4se...worked fine...n now landed a DV336se...working fine...fingers crossed.

so far...i am a liking the DV the best of the lot. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNWKjN429KE


Edited by Lorspeaker - 7/27/13 at 6:40pm
post #4947 of 7819
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

The bottlehead would be an excellent choice for the price range. Keep in mind, that you won't be able to sell the assembled kit for a profit here on head-fi though. 

Yeah you may not be able to here on Head-Fi, but other places you can. Even if you do re-sell it here, the loss is minimal compared to LittleDot and others alike. At least, you would gain invaluable DIY experience.

 

Definitely true. I think more people need to gain experience in DIY. I think it would end up changing a lot of people's opinions on things like cables. 

 

Also, I'm not totally sure how strongly that rule is being force in the FS forums here. I think I've seen a few people selling assembled cracks with like a $200 profit. 

 

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Originally Posted by RUMAY408 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

The bottlehead would be an excellent choice for the price range. Keep in mind, that you won't be able to sell the assembled kit for a profit here on head-fi though. 

Speaking from personal experience the Bellari for its price range is good, but to get it to the next level the stock tube just doesn't cut it.  I had to upgrade with a vintage Telefunken tube. By the time you start adding in upgraded tubes you can literally double the amp price.

 

 

If you're spending so much money on tubes that is rivals the cost of the actual amplifier, there's a good chance you've been taken for a sucker and someone has made a lot of money on you. 

post #4948 of 7819

With all that above said I just finished my Meier Classic review.  The T1 sound amazing with the Meier Stack.

post #4949 of 7819

Which DAC is best match with T1?

I will replace internal DAC of Alo Pan Am with it and will probably buy WA2 or CSP2+ AMP in the near future. I was thinking  of yulong D18. By the way which AMP is better choice for T1, WA2 or CSP2+? I was thinking also about Meier Daccorda/Classic combo, but I am afraid that T1 will sound thin with this combo. What about Daccorda + WA2 or CSP2+? Can anybody comment if upgrade from Alo Pan Am to WA2 or CSP2+ will be worth it?

post #4950 of 7819

WA2 is nice and full sounding and great with T1.

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