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post #4876 of 7895
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Originally Posted by CantScareMe View Post

Wow, that's surprising to hear. Actually, on my graham slee diamond the T1's are pretty smooth up top too - smoother than the d7k and ultrasone sig pro.

I guess the final question if I may ask is which of these too, the T1 and the TH900 do you think sounds better....

...I know that they are on different lines of headphones and therefore it's hard to compare them, but if in 100 occasions you had to pick one to listen to on a random day, which would you choose >50 times?!

Thanks a lot for your answers - it's definitely helping me out and i'm sure others too.

If i had to pick, it would overall be the Beyer T1, but you better have a proper amp for them, that's the only caveat.
post #4877 of 7895
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Originally Posted by gzeminem View Post

Very interesting suggestion, thanx buddy!

 

they actually can be shipped to Australia. 

 

Also think about Meier Corda Classic. Does not colour the sound like WA2.

Unless you like color in your sound.

post #4878 of 7895
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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post

Unless you like color in your sound.

 

Of course. 

post #4879 of 7895

T1 was smoother than D7k for me as well. though its the other way around if i used a T1 on another amp

post #4880 of 7895
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Originally Posted by CantScareMe View Post


Wow, that's surprising to hear. Actually, on my graham slee diamond the T1's are pretty smooth up top too - smoother than the d7k and ultrasone sig pro.

I guess the final question if I may ask is which of these too, the T1 and the TH900 do you think sounds better....

...I know that they are on different lines of headphones and therefore it's hard to compare them, but if in 100 occasions you had to pick one to listen to on a random day, which would you choose >50 times?!

About the different lines of headphones - I feel it goes like this. On one line you can have the k701, T1, HD800, HD700 where people wouldn't really find these headphones complementary. Rather they seem to compete with each other, and for me and my ears, having heard in depth the other three, I think the T1 sounds the best (beats the HD800 by far in terms of its natural sound). The d7k, JVC dx1000 and th900 (?) could be placed on another line I guess.


Thanks a lot for your answers - it's definitely helping me out and i'm sure others too.

The T1s and TH-900s are so very different to say which sounds better. The T1s are open headphones and offer a nice airy / natural impression. The TH-900s are quicker, with MOAR bass and very similar sound staging. They're closed and don't leak very much...they even get my wife's approval (hard to get in that regard). So they fill that niche very nicely too. The TH900s are more coloured/fun headphones. So pick your poison. 

post #4881 of 7895

Did Beyer put dampening material in the newer production units?  I'll most likely purchase one soon but seems like a dampening line would help the sound a bunch.

post #4882 of 7895
MH,

I'm looking for an all rounder headphone to complement my HD800 & W3000ANV. Can I assume you prefer the TH900 since you no longer own the T1? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

The T1s and TH-900s are so very different to say which sounds better. .....

 

I guess if I had both I would arrive at the same conclusion. So as you say - I'll pick my poison!

post #4884 of 7895
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Originally Posted by vlach View Post

MH,

I'm looking for an all rounder headphone to complement my HD800 & W3000ANV. Can I assume you prefer the TH900 since you no longer own the T1? Thanks.

I find the W3000s quite close to the HD800s and prefer the TH-900's over the Audio Technicas. And yes, they would be a fantastic complimentary headphone for your HD800s.

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Originally Posted by CantScareMe View Post

 

I guess if I had both I would arrive at the same conclusion. So as you say - I'll pick my poison!

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post #4885 of 7895

Thanks for the words of support Dubstep Girl, Wapiti, and zilch0md.

 

Beyer did take good care of me. I shipped the cans on Monday, they got to Sound Surgeon in Long Island on Wednesday morning.

 

By Wednesday afternoon, I received return ship notification. Got the cans back today, the following Saturday.

 

Beyer honored the warranty, replacing the headband and the right driver assembly.

 

My serial number was 8502. It's now 11401.

 

Cans work as well as they did when I got 'em. I'm still a little in awe at the sound of this system, but wary about when it'll fall apart again.

 

All's well in the end. The honeymoon's over, but I suppose that happens with all gadget infatuations, sooner or later.

post #4886 of 7895

I love hearing all these stories about how well Beyer treated these repairs...excellent customer service goes a very, very long way with me, and I have a ton of respect for the way they take care of us. 

post #4887 of 7895

Wonderful to hear!

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After I got my T1 a couple of months back, I had decided to try the new Sennheiser HDVD800 DAC/amp package for the T1. My reasoning was that Sennheiser was probably going to tweek the HDVD800 to optimize the sound on the HD800. Since both the HD800 and the T1 have occasionally been the recipient of complaints that they are a tad too bright sometimes, I guessed that if Sennheiser tried to fix that for the HD800, The T1 might benefit as well.

 

As it turns out, this seems to be the case (i.e., the treble is tamed a bit on the HD800 bringing the presence up some and the T1 seems a bit better tamed too). Anyway, I did a bit of a blurb on this in the Sennheiser HDVD800 Headphone Amplifier Thread showing how the fix could be related to the chosen output impedance selected for the amplifier. If you are interested it's at:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/605444/sennheiser-hdvd800-headphone-amplifier/1290#post_9639003

 

- Jeff

post #4889 of 7895
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Originally Posted by wisemanja View Post

After I got my T1 a couple of months back, I had decided to try the new Sennheiser HDVD800 DAC/amp package for the T1. My reasoning was that Sennheiser was probably going to tweek the HDVD800 to optimize the sound on the HD800. Since both the HD800 and the T1 have occasionally been the recipient of complaints that they are a tad too bright sometimes, I guessed that if Sennheiser tried to fix that for the HD800, The T1 might benefit as well.

 

As it turns out, this seems to be the case (i.e., the treble is tamed a bit on the HD800 bringing the presence up some and the T1 seems a bit better tamed too). Anyway, I did a bit of a blurb on this in the Sennheiser HDVD800 Headphone Amplifier Thread showing how the fix could be related to the chosen output impedance selected for the amplifier. If you are interested it's at:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/605444/sennheiser-hdvd800-headphone-amplifier/1290#post_9639003

 

- Jeff

Just saw your post there~~~~

I think as far as SS amp goes, T1 sound very very good on HDVD800~~~~ Even better when I use my DAC1 + HDVD800~~~~~~~~

But you have to go balance first~

post #4890 of 7895

Yea, I would expect that the output impedance related benefits of treble reduction on the T1 would not be quite as substantial as those on the HD800 since the T1's impedance curve is twice as high as that of the HD800s (e.g., 650 ohm vs 350 ohm). However, although the shape of the curves are similar, the upper region beyond 7 KHz or so on the T1 curve is flat whereas on the HD800, it starts to curve upward again after 10 KHz. That means that although the treble reduction effect on the T1 is likely less than the HD800 when used on the HDVD800, the effect extends way up to ultrasonic on the T1 where on the HD800, it starts to be lost again around 10KHz.

 

I always knew that the output impedance of an amp can affect the frequency response of a transducer (i.e., headphones, earplugs, speakers, etc.) if it's impedance curve wasn't perfectly linear (and none are). It was just interesting to see how significant the numbers might be for the equipment that I have.

 

In general, these headphones are all fairly "well behaved" in that their phasing is fairly stable and their impedance curve caries only between X and 2X ohms. Speakers are complex beasts. A single speaker can range anywhere from 1 ohm to 20K ohms. Matching speakers and amps can be a lot more difficult at times.


Edited by wisemanja - 7/23/13 at 9:41am
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