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post #4636 of 7823
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

i don't find this at all and i have a huge head. 

 

How much wearing do the pads require to become more soft/plush?

 

I wish you could get leather pads for these headphones. 

post #4637 of 7823
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

I typically base my audio decisions on a whole lot of research, cause it's usually really tough for me to find ways to audition gear. I have far more experience with regular amps (e.g. Parasound, Butler, Anthem, B&K, Outlaw, McCormack, etc, etc) than I do headamps, but I rely on a well-developed understanding of what sort of sound I like, combined with hours and hours of research. In all honesty the Meier decision came down to two things: Past experience with Meier products (the Corda Jazz) and money. I was looking at maybe the Burson Soloist or one of the Vioelectric models, and I was also tempted by the Mapletree line since I have past experience with their products as well.

 

I just decided I was going to put a $1k ceiling on the budget, so when Jan's amps went on sale it was the right time. I pretty much fell in love with the crossfeed circuit on the Jazz, so that was a huge selling point. My research paid off when I bought my first Meier, so it was a no-brainer for me to just go higher up the line. I also have been fortunate to get to know a few very seasoned head-fi'ers who were able to assist me in narrowing down my short list. It also helped to know that Jan Meier is very familiar with the T1s (in addition to many other headphones), so since this decision was for the sole purpose of making my Beyers happy (I really like my Little Dot for my Grados) it was just further confirmation that this was the way to go. 

Thanks for the feedback.  I'm in the same boat plenty of regular amps around to try but Head amps are in a niche, hard to go on anything else but research.

post #4638 of 7823

mine came today, impressions to come soon.

post #4639 of 7823
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Originally Posted by CantScareMe View Post

 

How much wearing do the pads require to become more soft/plush?

 

I wish you could get leather pads for these headphones. 

i have only had them on for a combined 16 hours. after 5 or 6 i had no problems with comfort. i do wish they were a slight bit bigger because they dont go all the way around my ear without touching. the bottom of my ear lobe touches the inside of the pad just barely. i assume this will change though as the cups get worn more - i had the same problem with other cans and it went away after a wile. 

 

when i first got the hd650's they clamped to my head really tightly but after 5 or 6 weeks they loosed up and are now extreemly comfortable. you might just have to wait for that to happen

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Originally Posted by RUMAY408 View Post

Thanks for the feedback.  I'm in the same boat plenty of regular amps around to try but Head amps are in a niche, hard to go on anything else but research.

 

Exactly. That's one of the reasons why I tend to completely disregard posts from apparent fanboys - regardless of the product/company. I had some hits and misses early on when I first started getting into headphones, but now that I have a good feel for several people whose feedback has proven reliable, I tend to make very solid decisions. As a result, I've put together a solid collection of headphones and amps that I'm confident will be all I need for the forseeable future. It's still fun to keep track of the latest and greatest, but now that I've settled on Jan's best options, I won't be making changes for a long while. Time to just sit back and enjoy my music and movies. Do you have a short list of gear you're considering currently?
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I haven't been on this thread for a while now as I've been over on the Sennheiser HDVD800 discussions. Also, I think I lost the last posting I made here (didn't push the right button or something.

 

My and HDVD800 and T1 have pretty well broken in now and they really do sound superb. Since my T1 are terminated to use the balanced output of the HDVD800, I built a balanced to single ended adapter so I could also listen on the single ended output of the HDVD800.

 

In a fairly brief comparison, it appeared that the  balanced configuration was just much better. It just seemed quicker overall. More Clarity and distinction of sounds. The single ended output sounded a tad bit more muddy on the bottom end and didn't seem to have the cohesion or as much transparency of the balanced setup. Listening to electronic bass (e.g., Daft Punk), the low end sound just felt really nice and tight and well controlled in Balanced mode and a bit looser using single ended.

 

Since I'm just getting back into Audio, I don't have experience with other DAC/amps or headphones (other than the HD580 and Headroom "Maxed out Home" that I had 11 years ago :-) so I cannot give detailed comparisons but I can address so common complaints I've head about the T1.

 

First of all, the "Hot/harsh treble" or sibilance that might occur with these phone does seem plausible to me with other amps/DACs. However, with my system I have rarely seen anything like this. Now I do have a Patricia Barber track (The Wind Song) where she sings very close to the mic with a lot of "S"s in the lyrics that can be a bit much :-) but in general I have rarely felt that it was too much ON MY SYSTEM even after it was broken in.

 

The power in the treble range can make the mid and upper mid range receded a little bit. Woody sounds (e.g., bamboo chimes, clarinet, small drums) can be missing a bit of their richness and not sound quite as natural making items seem a little more distant. But since the cans do so many other things well, this is something that I find I don't miss much at the moment.

 

One last item, for what it is worth, my XLR-4 balanced termination to the T1 do NOT carry the shield of the headphone cables through to the chassis of the HDVD800. Furthermore, my XLR-4 to single ended phone plug also does not carry the shield through for when I am listening in non-balanced mode.

 

Not quite sure why there is a ground on the drivers of the T1. If they were microphones, it would make sense, but the signal is higher than line level, and it is sourced at the HDVD800 and not the T1 drivers. In any even, for my testing the headphone cable shields were only connected to the driver housings as they came from the factory.

 

Also, I have discovered that I really like the sound of the HDVD800 with the T1s. However, there have been some questions that have come up regarding the use of the USB input on the HDVD800. If you want more info on that amp/DAC combo, it can be found at:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/605444/sennheiser-hdvd800-headphone-amplifier

 

- Jeff

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Apologies if this has been covered already but has anyone tried the T1 with the A1 amp?

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Originally Posted by treebug View Post

Apologies if this has been covered already but has anyone tried the T1 with the A1 amp?


I had that combo for a time...they work very well together as you might imagine....the problem is that the A1 is not really very good with other headphones

post #4644 of 7823
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I had that combo for a time...they work very well together as you might imagine....the problem is that the A1 is not really very good with other headphones

This is the issue I'm trying to avoid. Expensive regrets.  Even with my lower end amps the T1 sounds great already.  I want to get the T1 to the next level. 

 

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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

Exactly. That's one of the reasons why I tend to completely disregard posts from apparent fanboys - regardless of the product/company. I had some hits and misses early on when I first started getting into headphones, but now that I have a good feel for several people whose feedback has proven reliable, I tend to make very solid decisions. As a result, I've put together a solid collection of headphones and amps that I'm confident will be all I need for the forseeable future. It's still fun to keep track of the latest and greatest, but now that I've settled on Jan's best options, I won't be making changes for a long while. Time to just sit back and enjoy my music and movies. Do you have a short list of gear you're considering currently?

Woo audio WA7, WA6-SE, or the WA2 paired with the AQ Dragonfly that I already own. Also I have considered the Meier stack or the Ray Samuals Raptor.  I have other Headphones and more to follow and would prefer a single DAC/AMP combo for all the HP's if that is even possible.


Edited by RUMAY408 - 6/22/13 at 2:27pm
post #4645 of 7823
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Originally Posted by RUMAY408 View Post

This is the issue I'm trying to avoid. Expensive regrets.  Even with my lower end amps the T1 sounds great already.  I want to get the T1 to the next level. 

 

Woo audio WA7, WA6-SE,  or the WA2 paired with the AQ Dragonfly I already own. Also I I have considered the Meier stack or the Ray Samuals Raptor.  I have other Headphones and more to follow and would prefer a single DAC/AMP combo for all the HP's if that is even possible.

Good luck with that. 

post #4646 of 7823
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

i don't find this at all and i have a huge head. 

I can confirm the hugeness of said head. Small objects orbit around it

post #4647 of 7823
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Originally Posted by SoThisIsSound View Post

I can confirm the hugeness of said head. Small objects orbit around it

yes he has seen my head - many times

post #4648 of 7823
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

yes he has seen my head - many times

 

They say that in order to get ahead, first you need one.

 

You must be doing well biggrin.gif

post #4649 of 7823
The t1s are one of my favorite headphones. I would compare them to the hd800s. The hd800s have a better soundstage and I find a tad more detail in the treble. Mids for the headphones r equally good. But I find the hd800s lacking in bass even though the quality of the bass is good. The t1 wins in the bass category. Lastly the t1s are cheaper and I think they are a better buy as they can be very good even with a portable amp. I thought they worked well with fiio amps. The hd800s are picky about the amp they are paired up with
post #4650 of 7823
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Originally Posted by wisemanja View Post

 

They say that in order to get ahead, first you need one.

 

You must be doing well biggrin.gif

Quite well actually. i have 23 hours on the T1's now. They sounded a bit cold and edgy at the start compared to how they are now. the sound started to get really warm there a while back. people are saying 150 - 200 hours of burn in but i cant imagine them sounding any nicer than they are now. 

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