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post #4621 of 7814
Off topic a little - is it too much to hope the T5p delivers an equivalent performance to T1 in the closed domain?
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Off topic a little - is it too much to hope the T5p delivers an equivalent performance to T1 in the closed domain?

I would love to hear from someone that has both as well.  Reading through the forums, I heard more bad than good about the T5p.  I'd love to have a good headphone at work that doesn't need a serious amp. 

post #4623 of 7814
T5p needs as good an amp as any other headphone in this price range and the better they the more they shine.

BAd reputation came from Tyll and much too many people rely on one person's impression
post #4624 of 7814
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Originally Posted by avl06 View Post

I think the T1's are underrated - they sound good with pretty much anything, but with the right gear they sound really really good. A worthy flagship.

 

Absolutely correct. I have just experienced this in the past week. They sounded good before, but with an amp and DAC upgrade they are doing things I never heard before. Love these phones. 

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I am finding that the T1's aren't too different from the TH900's... The T1's are slightly brighter and the TH900's have a more powerful bass impact than the T1's... The vocals  are more forward on the T1's which I find preferable. But honestly, I don't notice too much difference in the overall sound signature. The TH900's win on comfort ever so slightly (I prefer the feel of the ear cushions). In terms of soundstage, obviously being semi open, the T1's win but not by a large margin.

post #4626 of 7814

Don't forget to mention that the TH900 are twice the price of the Beyers... :P

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Haha, yes that darn Urushi coating certainly makes them more expensive... which is annoying as even though it's beautiful, I'd rather sacrifice it and pay less. I still love the TH900's, they were my first real headphone... But damn I am loving these Beyers. :D

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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

Absolutely correct. I have just experienced this in the past week. They sounded good before, but with an amp and DAC upgrade they are doing things I never heard before. Love these phones. 

I'm still mulling over various higher end amps.  I know you like the Meier.  Did you audition any others before deciding on these.  

post #4629 of 7814

Looking to recable my T1 to balanced. Any recommendation besides Norse Audio since they are currently not taking any orders?

 

Thanks,

ckc
 

post #4630 of 7814
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Originally Posted by RUMAY408 View Post

I'm still mulling over various higher end amps.  I know you like the Meier.  Did you audition any others before deciding on these.  

 

I typically base my audio decisions on a whole lot of research, cause it's usually really tough for me to find ways to audition gear. I have far more experience with regular amps (e.g. Parasound, Butler, Anthem, B&K, Outlaw, McCormack, etc, etc) than I do headamps, but I rely on a well-developed understanding of what sort of sound I like, combined with hours and hours of research. In all honesty the Meier decision came down to two things: Past experience with Meier products (the Corda Jazz) and money. I was looking at maybe the Burson Soloist or one of the Vioelectric models, and I was also tempted by the Mapletree line since I have past experience with their products as well.

 

I just decided I was going to put a $1k ceiling on the budget, so when Jan's amps went on sale it was the right time. I pretty much fell in love with the crossfeed circuit on the Jazz, so that was a huge selling point. My research paid off when I bought my first Meier, so it was a no-brainer for me to just go higher up the line. I also have been fortunate to get to know a few very seasoned head-fi'ers who were able to assist me in narrowing down my short list. It also helped to know that Jan Meier is very familiar with the T1s (in addition to many other headphones), so since this decision was for the sole purpose of making my Beyers happy (I really like my Little Dot for my Grados) it was just further confirmation that this was the way to go. 

post #4631 of 7814
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Originally Posted by ckc527 View Post

Looking to recable my T1 to balanced. Any recommendation besides Norse Audio since they are currently not taking any orders?

 

Thanks,

ckc
 

 

http://btg-audio.webs.com/

post #4632 of 7814
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Originally Posted by avl06 View Post

I think the T1's are underrated - they sound good with pretty much anything, but with the right gear they sound really really good. A worthy flagship.

I have to agree. 

 

I've heard a few hd800's on a variety of gear (including the hdvd800) in silent backdrops. I find the T1 to be genuinely superior allround. Except from imaging and headstage I almost cannot find a single way the hd800's sound better.... 

 

....though I do like the hd800's more than the T1's. Much much greater comfort they offer. I've stretched my beyer t1's over two weeks now and nothing has changed. This headphone CANNOT be stretched out so if you find their clamp to be too much, either you physically adjust to it or get rid of it. The pads are stiff, much more so than the dt880, and this contributes to discomfort. 

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Originally Posted by CantScareMe View Post

I have to agree. 

 

I've heard a few hd800's on a variety of gear (including the hdvd800) in silent backdrops. I find the T1 to be genuinely superior allround. Except from imaging and headstage I almost cannot find a single way the hd800's sound better.... 

 

....though I do like the hd800's more than the T1's. Much much greater comfort they offer. I've stretched my beyer t1's over two weeks now and nothing has changed. This headphone CANNOT be stretched out so if you find their clamp to be too much, either you physically adjust to it or get rid of it. The pads are stiff, much more so than the dt880, and this contributes to discomfort. 

i don't find this at all and i have a huge head. 

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Question here - The Beyerdynamic T1 is much a more detailed and efficient driver than the HD650. When I plug in the HD650 to my WA2 and turn up the volume really high I can hear a slight hum which I presume is the noise of the amp. When I plug in the T1 and turn up the amp to full I can barely discern any noise at all. If the T1 is more efficient than the HD650 then should it not be the other way around? I am just wondering why the noise floor of the amp is quieter with the T1 than with the HD650. 

post #4635 of 7814
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

Question here - The Beyerdynamic T1 is much a more detailed and efficient driver than the HD650. When I plug in the HD650 to my WA2 and turn up the volume really high I can hear a slight hum which I presume is the noise of the amp. When I plug in the T1 and turn up the amp to full I can barely discern any noise at all. If the T1 is more efficient than the HD650 then should it not be the other way around? I am just wondering why the noise floor of the amp is quieter with the T1 than with the HD650. 

 

More ohms you have less huming noise you have (despite HD650 being "less efficient"/ lower sensitivity than T1)


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