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Originally Posted by Macross View Post

I thought about it too, but then I thought I that I should start off with something well within my budget first.  And I could upgrade to WA2 when the time comes.  I heard that the DAC from WA7 is one of the tops for its price.  So I can use it in conjunction with the WA2 down the line.  At least now I can enjoy decent music with the form factor that my SO approves.  I know its sad.
 

If that's the case, it'll give you more time to change your mind or find a good deal ;)

I thought the WA2 was ugly from pics too! Turns out looking pretty 'solid', well built and definitely not ugly!

 

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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

you could always use the stock tubes with the WA2. the ts 5998 are better, but theres also alot of cheaper options to tube roll with for when you decide to upgrade.

I'm too scared to take off the tubes :(

Not sure if we just twist or pull.

And I remember the guy selling it to me say, if you put the big tubes in the wrong place, it'll sound like crap even though they look the same o.0

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Originally Posted by Magiv9 View Post

 

I'm too scared to take off the tubes :(

Not sure if we just twist or pull.

And I remember the guy selling it to me say, if you put the big tubes in the wrong place, it'll sound like crap even though they look the same o.0

 

never twist! 

 

you hold the tube with your fingers (if its the small tubes) or your hand (if its a large tube), and just pull straight up, slightly wiggling it side-to-side (as in wiggling it front and back as you pull, never going in a circle and never twisting).

 

twisting will only weaken the base/glass and/or break the plastic guide pin


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 4/30/13 at 6:59pm
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i had the same worry when o get my wa2 6 months ago just yank them a bit harder theyll be fine

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or just go by what dubstepgirl said there. tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

never twist! 

 

you hold the tube with your fingers (if its the small tubes) or your hand (if its a large tube), and just pull straight up, slightly wiggling it side-to-side (as in wiggling it front and back as you pull, never going in a circle and never twisting).

hahah okay thanks.

Knew i was worried for a reason ;P

Wasnt sure if its like light bulbs you unscrew it first.

Sounds pretty simple, was always wondering what stock sounded like, will try it later.

post #4086 of 7966
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Originally Posted by Macross View Post

btw, I am 25 hrs in the T1, and its already sounding better.  the treble doesn't hurt my ears as much and I am listening to music in higher volume than before.  Is this normal?


Yes, it's called high frequency hearing loss, perfectly normal. tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


Yes, it's called high frequency hearing loss, perfectly normal. tongue.gif


that too:)  I always likes the treble energy in the t1.  I mean is accentuated....but its so smooth.  doesn't fatigue me at all.  Its like butter, and not even just with the wa2 but with my burson too.

 

Still don't get why people didnt enjoy the 160d with the t1, but im upgrading to the soloist soon so I'll have a little ss perspective then as the consensus seams to be the soloist is superior.

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Originally Posted by barid View Post


that too:)  I always likes the treble energy in the t1.  I mean is accentuated....but its so smooth.  doesn't fatigue me at all.  Its like butter, and not even just with the wa2 but with my burson too.

 

Still don't get why people didnt enjoy the 160d with the t1, but im upgrading to the soloist soon so I'll have a little ss perspective then as the consensus seams to be the soloist is superior.


Our brain does selective attenuation (mind equalizer) to make it sound right, try T1 after HD800 and treble doesn't feel that "smooth". But over time you just get used to it.

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Just switched back to the stock tubes and the difference was pretty notable but definitely still better than my stx and my bad, had the tung sol 7236 which I'm still happy with xD

The stock is more brighter and background clapping live recording sounds wierd? like popcorn popping from cereals.

It sounds pretty good and more upfront now and can no longer go past the 10-11 oclock on the volume knob.

 

Changing tubes was easier than I thought -.-

Thanks for the tip smily_headphones1.gif

 

After listening to more tracks, I quite enjoy it o.0

Maybe I'm just excited from the different sound signature but lower quality tracks are out of the question now, no where near as good and exciting compare to the previous setup. Some background instruments are harder to notice now when I'm use hearing them without any effort.


Edited by Magiv9 - 4/30/13 at 9:12pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


Our brain does selective attenuation (mind equalizer) to make it sound right, try T1 after HD800 and treble doesn't feel that "smooth". But over time you just get used to it.

 

well thank god for my brain then, or else I'd need all this audio equipment:)

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Gang.  The T1 is getting killed over in the HD800 thread ..    Troops to the rescue  biggrin.gif

Woah, carnage over there.  Have I backed the wrong horse - is the HD800 *that* much better than the our beloved T1? (Genuine question)

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Ah don't worry, they managed to lock down the HD800 thrad by talking nonsense about cables and then even got upset over it. As an HD800 user, that's really unacceptable. As a T1 user though - haha, you got your thread all locked up, suckers!!

 

by the way lads and lassies, someone mentioned that there are differences between different T1 headphones. Is this substantiated by measurements or was it the subjective opinion of someone that has multiple pairs? I Have had three pairs and never noticed any difference although they were all purchased at around the same time and the serial numbers were pretty similar as well. Like most manufacturers, there are probably more than a few revisions that users are not always aware of, or sometimes not at all.

 

As for the high frequency loss, it is quite accurate. Human hearing is a highly adaptive. So much in fact that any subjective volume adjustment when comparing different sources and recently, single-ended and balanced cables, is quickly nullified and the measuring equipment always shows just how inaccurate tuning by ear way. It is extremely interesting because if I can tune a string instrument to perfection without a chromatic tuner, that still doesn't mean I'd be able to match the volumes right and the other way around. However, there's a point to this. If after a while you can no longer hear the high frequency peak or it doesn't bother you anymore, that means you were listening too loud in the first place. Hearing damage is quite common and especially in younger population. It is often not detected till it is too late but it is cumulative so try to be moderate. Headphones in general are more dangerous in this respect because of the closeness of the drivers to the ear drum, or in other words, the number of intervals of audio waves are a lot smaller than is the usual case with speakers. 

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Originally Posted by avl06 View Post

Woah, carnage over there.  Have I backed the wrong horse - is the HD800 *that* much better than the our beloved T1? (Genuine question)

No the HD800 is not better than the T1 but personal preference come into play here. You have two flagship headphones from two of the leading headphone manufacturers. They each have their fan base but once you get into that "World Class" status it becomes entirely personal. I prefer the T1 warmer sound to the HD800 more technical sound. We all listen with different listening preferences. Many people seem to be wowed by the soundstage that the HD800 presents in spite of the fact that it will make a chamber orchestra sound like a symphony. The HD800's are the soundstage kings for those who value massive width and depth in all their recordings. Every time I have tried them I have found the wow factor wears off quickly and I return to my T1's. 

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As a very happy T1 owner, I'll be receiving my HD800 later today to see for myself.... could someone post the link of the HD800 thread mentioned above?  When I searched, I found an appreciation thread with no activity since February, so I'm pretty sure that's not the right one....   Thanks

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I'm personally a sennheiser fan myself, didn't like the bigger soundstage of the ATH headphones and never heard of the beyerdynamic brand until about a month ago?

The people in the HD800 thread makes me regret not waiting that extra 30 or so minutes to try them out but it was preoccupied(not implying I regret my T1s).

Same goes for the stock tubes on the WA2, I read that other tubes are better but I'm definitely loving the orchestra/instruments alot more but they lose in terms transparency and vocals.

 

 

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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post

As a very happy T1 owner, I'll be receiving my HD800 later today to see for myself.... could someone post the link of the HD800 thread mentioned above?  When I searched, I found an appreciation thread with no activity since February, so I'm pretty sure that's not the right one....   Thanks

 

I'd be interested in this since I missed out :(

the HD800 thread is in the summit fi area but then again it has the word 'new' in it too

http://www.head-fi.org/t/650510/the-new-hd800-appreciation-thread


Edited by Magiv9 - 5/1/13 at 5:26am
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