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post #346 of 10479
I've had my T1 (#1971) for about half a year now, and I don't think I would change a thing with my setup. The T1 really benefit from a DAC/Amp slightly on the warmer side synergy-wise with tubes. In my case, putting the NFB-12 in place as the dedicated DAC made the greatest difference, since it has a slightly dark sound signature. It also has the power to drive them just fine, but tubes definitely give the T1 that much smoother of an edge.

Even with my "mid-fi" dac/amp setup, the T1 still shines and vastly outperforms any other headphones I've used (ie: HD650, K701, DT990, RS1), I did try HD800 before buying the T1 and greatly preferred the T1 since it strikes a greater balance of analytical sound and musicality, the HD800 steered too much to the bright side and weren't very good for trance/house/DnB type music, while the T1 gladly took on the task, in many ways better than the DT990 did. When I first put them on my head, the soundstage put a big grin on my face along with a big "Why didn't I just buy these in the first place?". I listen to lots of different genres of music, so the T1 that do everything very well with no glaring weakness are the perfect headphone for me. Music with lots of layers really put a smile on my face, like Porcupine Tree.

I haven't felt the need to upgrade anything after this setup, I really don't have any peeves or hear any problems in the representation of anything, it's still a treat everyday to throw on these headphones and the $900 USD I paid for them in the FS forums is probably one of the most rewarding purchases I've made in my life, it seems so paltry to the enjoyment. I did however have to buy one of those Wooaudio headphone stands... a banana holder just doesn't do them justice for how nice looking they are.
Edited by Elanzer - 3/31/11 at 10:53pm
post #347 of 10479

It is great to hear more T1's owners coming up to share.  I also had T1 for almost half year but did not really grasp the true strength of T1 until recently.  Coming from DT880/600, T1 does have more details and better imaging and tighter bass.  However, DT880/600 has a unique "atmosphere" (I just cannot pinpoint what it is exactly) and easiness that let me to enjoy music more instead of straightening me up for demanded concentration (yes, T1 does that for me).  Also, the huge efficiency difference between T1 and DT880/600 makes the sound level matched comparison quite difficult.

 

But I just realized T1 has much better dynamic range comparing to DT880/600.  This characteristic really shines for classical music with large scale and great sound level contrast.  DT880/600 will "saturate" or become congested at crowded music session.  Also the noise floor starts to show up at higher level listening (~80 dB and that is very loud for me).  T1, on the other hand, handles the complex passage easier with great clarity.  And the background was still dark and clean.  This has been a nice touch for me to appreciate T1's advantage.

post #348 of 10479
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Totally agree the T1's are superb. I love their speed,detail and clarity.

 

Very even handed sound that brings music alive!!



I can see in your signature that you own the HE6. I'm very curious about them, how do they compare with the T1? Which one do you prefer?

post #349 of 10479


 

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I can see in your signature that you own the HE6. I'm very curious about them, how do they compare with the T1? Which one do you prefer?



At the moment I definitely prefer the T1's.

The HE6's sound very good balanced out of the Roc but the T1's still sound a lot better and the gap is even bigger out of the Woo6se.

I am currently trying a Virtue Sensation M451 with the HE6 and they sound very good but I am only using the cheapest power supply while I wait for my battery supply to arrive. This will also triple the power output because at the moment the Sensation has no more power than my other amps into 50ohms!

I will report back when the batteries arrive then I will see what the HE6's can really do :)


Edited by nigeljames - 4/1/11 at 9:06am
post #350 of 10479

Mr. Banana -- I would stick with the T1s over the HE6s. The HE6s have a unique sound signature. The highs are smooth and extended, but mine (just stock form with regular headphone amps, not speaker amps as

often recommended here) make me focus on the upper mids and beyond in a hi-fi'ish way. I personally find my T1s much more listenable and natural than my HE6s.

Also, the T1s have a better grip/control factor. This is on 3 top amps I have (1 tube, 2 solid state).

I'm going to try a good balanced cable for my HE6s to give them a fighting chance, as there are things I like about them, a kind of clarity and openness that is nice.

I really should try my speaker amp, but I need to rearrange my room for that...

If you do want to try an alternative to the T1s, I would suggest Edition 8s (check that you don't have giant elephant ears, as the earspace is slightly tight).

The Ed8s sound like the T1s but with even more natural midrange, but also with stronger upper bass, and w/o bite up top.

 

post #351 of 10479

Thank you for the very fast and precise answer!

 

It seems I'll stick with my actual gear for a loooong timeL3000.gif.

post #352 of 10479

#1861 reporting.

 

I got them used. and my lord. BEST pair of cans i've owned ( and i've owned the following : DT880 250 ohms, DT990 600 ohms, Senn HD595, Grado RS-1, Grado-325i, Beyer DT150, AKG 701).

 

I'm just using a Darkvoice 336SE to power it at the moment but it sounds amazing. I've got the DT990 to compare it with and the DT990 sounds almost like mush compared to the T1. It's tight, it's fast, it has no hint of hardness or sharpness (quite unlike the DT990).

 

Vocals are crystalline. Clear, fast and with just a delicious hint of warmth. Instrument seperation is fantastic, everything is perfectly laid out, with nothing bleeding into each other.

 

Looks like (sounds like) it's gonna be a long night of listening for me. Natalie Merchant is on now and it's beautiful!

 

And oh, i just placed an order for the Schiit Lyr just for kicks. Fun times ahead!

 

 

post #353 of 10479

Anyone know if something like the KICAS Caliente is competent to the Beyer A1?

 

I know my ss is discrete, single-ended class a topology. All I know is it sounds like, wow!

 

 

 

post #354 of 10479

Had Caliente long ago with DT880/600.  It was a little too warm for me with that combo, but it may be just right with T1 for two reason.  1) T1 is much easy to drive 2) T1 has much more details and clarity.  It may not be your last word for T1 but consider its price it may be a good match.
 

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Anyone know if something like the KICAS Caliente is competent to the Beyer A1?

 

I know my ss is discrete, single-ended class a topology. All I know is it sounds like, wow!

 

 

 



 

post #355 of 10479

Thanks dukja,

 

That's good info. I'm going to settle with the Caliente (love it) and T1 (don't have yet) and start to save up for the CSP2+, eventually.

 

 

I think this might be one of your pictures, not sure. If it is...I love this picture.

 

decware_015net.jpg

 

 

 

post #356 of 10479
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Originally Posted by Marshal Banana View Post





I can see in your signature that you own the HE6. I'm very curious about them, how do they compare with the T1? Which one do you prefer?


I slightly prefer my HE6/Lyr setup to my T1/WA2 setup. I find the HE-6s a bit more transparent and slightly better balanced (especially through the treble region). Both are fantastic world class headphones though.
post #357 of 10479
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I slightly prefer my HE6/Lyr setup to my T1/WA2 setup. I find the HE-6s a bit more transparent and slightly better balanced (especially through the treble region). Both are fantastic world class headphones though.


How do you think of LCD-2 vs T1 or HD800 ?

post #358 of 10479


 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post


I slightly prefer my HE6/Lyr setup to my T1/WA2 setup. I find the HE-6s a bit more transparent and slightly better balanced (especially through the treble region). Both are fantastic world class headphones though.


Thank you for your thought.

It's seems that the HE6 are amazing headphones with the right gear. Could you describe how the HE-6 treble is better balanced (how do they compare about quantity and tonal balance?).

And what about the confort?

post #359 of 10479
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Originally Posted by dukja View Post

Had Caliente long ago with DT880/600.  It was a little too warm for me with that combo, but it may be just right with T1 for two reason.  1) T1 is much easy to drive 2) T1 has much more details and clarity.  It may not be your last word for T1 but consider its price it may be a good match.
 



 


I tried the regular KICAS with my 880s and 650s.  It sounded like a transistor radio.  Had to send it back.

 

I'd go with something more substantial to drive the T1s.  I found them pleasant with my M^3/sigma and Woo3, and quite enjoyable with my GS-1.

 

USG

 

post #360 of 10479

Just got my T1 yesterday.  YAY!!!!  I am uploading the unboxing video right now.  

 

I thought it comes with leather earpads?

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