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post #3241 of 10478

The weird thing is that he loves the 1350s, which to me sound pretty similar to the T1s, but on a smaller scale. I dunno....I'm very happy with the T1s, so that's all I'm concerned about

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The weird thing is that he loves the 1350s, which to me sound pretty similar to the T1s, but on a smaller scale. I dunno....I'm very happy with the T1s, so that's all I'm concerned about


Yeah, I don't see why anyone wouldn't be happy with their T1's at least if they are using a great Amp with them.

Of course if not using an amp that pairs good with the T1's they are going to sound much worse. Lately I've been listening to a lot of metal music and I can't say anything else than, that the T1's rock, I don't think I ever heard a headphone that doesn't bore me when listening to this genre. Btw, if someones has any recommendations on how to improve the T1's sound "if possible" don't hesitate to tell me that :)

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Yeah, I don't see why anyone wouldn't be happy with their T1's at least if they are using a great Amp with them.

Of course if not using an amp that pairs good with the T1's they are going to sound much worse. Lately I've been listening to a lot of metal music and I can't say anything else than, that the T1's rock, I don't think I ever heard a headphone that doesn't bore me when listening to this genre. Btw, if someones has any recommendations on how to improve the T1's sound "if possible" don't hesitate to tell me that :)

 

One thing you could do for not a lot of money is pick up a tube buffer. I love having tubes in the signal path from time to time, and a buffer is a great way to go if you already have a SS amp that you like, which I know you do. My buffer of choice is the Grant Fidelity B283, but I think it's out of stock currently. Whether it's an improvement to your ears or not is something you'll have to figure out, but adding in a buffer is an inexpensive way to try tubes without dropping bigger money on a tube amp. 

post #3244 of 10478
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One thing you could do for not a lot of money is pick up a tube buffer. I love having tubes in the signal path from time to time, and a buffer is a great way to go if you already have a SS amp that you like, which I know you do. My buffer of choice is the Grant Fidelity B283, but I think it's out of stock currently. Whether it's an improvement to your ears or not is something you'll have to figure out, but adding in a buffer is an inexpensive way to try tubes without dropping bigger money on a tube amp. 

 

 

Focker,

 

Could you post a link to what a tube buffer looks like.  I'm not sure if I ever saw one before,

 

thanks

post #3245 of 10478

So what amps do people here think pair well with T1s? 

 

Sofar I've heard that SPL Auditor/Phonitor amps, and the Beyer A1 work a charm

 

Dan 

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Originally Posted by daniel_hokkaido View Post

So what amps do people here think pair well with T1s? 

 

So far I've heard that SPL Auditor/Phonitor amps, and the Beyer A1 work a charm

 

Dan 

 

 

My balanced M^3 and the βeta-22 are great with the T1s.   When I had the BHA-1 and tried the T1s in it SE output,  It was horrible.  I did not have a chance to try it in the balanced output so the verdict is still out,


Edited by preproman - 10/8/12 at 8:31am
post #3247 of 10478
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

One thing you could do for not a lot of money is pick up a tube buffer. I love having tubes in the signal path from time to time, and a buffer is a great way to go if you already have a SS amp that you like, which I know you do. My buffer of choice is the Grant Fidelity B283, but I think it's out of stock currently. Whether it's an improvement to your ears or not is something you'll have to figure out, but adding in a buffer is an inexpensive way to try tubes without dropping bigger money on a tube amp. 


Thank you for this information Focker. I've been looking at that tube buffer it looks interesting.. However I'm not sure if it will give any more boost than my Beyer A1 amp already does. I would like to know opinions on this and if someone actually has heard this tube buffer together with a SS amp like the A1. I guess I'll have to hear it myself of course, but it would be interesting to hear other peoples experience with this combination.. I also would like to say to anyone that is reading this and looking for a great amp to run the T1's don't hesitate to get the A1. I'm truly amazed with this amp so far. Oh and is there any actual need for a cable switch on the T1's? or does the stock ones do a good job? I'm looking for the best sound possible.

post #3248 of 10478
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

Focker,

 

Could you post a link to what a tube buffer looks like.  I'm not sure if I ever saw one before,

 

thanks

Sure thing...this is the one I have:

 

post #3249 of 10478
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Originally Posted by daniel_hokkaido View Post

So what amps do people here think pair well with T1s? 

 

Sofar I've heard that SPL Auditor/Phonitor amps, and the Beyer A1 work a charm

 

Dan 

 

 

The Meier amps are a great match for the T1

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Thank you for this information Focker. I've been looking at that tube buffer it looks interesting.. However I'm not sure if it will give any more boost than my Beyer A1 amp already does. I would like to know opinions on this and if someone actually has heard this tube buffer together with a SS amp like the A1. I guess I'll have to hear it myself of course, but it would be interesting to hear other peoples experience with this combination.. I also would like to say to anyone that is reading this and looking for a great amp to run the T1's don't hesitate to get the A1. I'm truly amazed with this amp so far. Oh and is there any actual need for a cable switch on the T1's? or does the stock ones do a good job? I'm looking for the best sound possible.

 

 

A tube buffer isn't meant to boost your amp. A lot of people like the sound of tube gear either instead of or in addition to solid state gear, like the A1 amp you have. A tube buffer imparts a touch of tube warmth to the overall sonic signature of your amp/source, which can sometimes allow the sound to be fleshed out a bit more and/or smooth over the treble.  I don't know if you've ever heard an analog system with a good turntable, but tubes can help to allow digital music to sound a bit more like vinyl....a bit more warmth and body is sometimes what you'll notice. Having a tube buffer allows you to keep the "balls" of your solid state gear while adding in subtle amounts of the qualities I mentioned. Some people love tubes, others dont, and yet others dont hear any difference. Only you can really decide for yourself. Personally, I love how my T1s sound straight out of my Meier amp, but I like it a touch better when I have the buffer engaged. It also allows you to "tube roll", which just means you try out different types of tubes, in order to find the sort of "flavor" you like best. 

 

This particular buffer has a guy on youtube demonstrating the audible effects of when you have it on and off while he's playing acoustic guitar. If you listen to the video with headphones, you can pretty easily discern the differences. It's a very cool demo. 

post #3251 of 10478
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Yeah, I don't see why anyone wouldn't be happy with their T1's at least if they are using a great Amp with them.

Of course if not using an amp that pairs good with the T1's they are going to sound much worse. Lately I've been listening to a lot of metal music and I can't say anything else than, that the T1's rock, I don't think I ever heard a headphone that doesn't bore me when listening to this genre. Btw, if someones has any recommendations on how to improve the T1's sound "if possible" don't hesitate to tell me that :)

 

Well I've got the T1 since 2 weeks, and I listen to a lot of metal, they can sound great, but when the recording sounds like crap (which unfortunatly happens all the time with metal), the T1 sounds really really bad

Good but they don't forgive anything

They're paired with a Burson HA160, don't have the opportunity (meaning money !) to try another amp


Edited by Bozoleclown - 10/8/12 at 11:59am
post #3252 of 10478
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Originally Posted by Bozoleclown View Post

 

Well I've got the T1 since 2 weeks, and I listen to a lot of metal, they can sound great, but when the recording sounds like crap (which unfortunatly happens all the time with metal), the T1 sounds really really bad

Good but they don't forgive anything

They're paired with a Burson HA160, don't have the opportunity (meaning money !) to try another amp

 

Hello, Bozoleclown.

 

Sorry to hear that you're not pleased with the listening experience in the metal genre. I've never heard the T1's with the Amp that you're using. So I don't know about the sound. I listen to a lot of metal myself and all I can tell you is that I'm very pleased with the sound that the A1 Amp can generate together with the T1. Then again it comes to taste, we could have different opinions on how a good metal sound should be. I've also heard good things about the Meier Amp together with the T1 from people who listens to metal music..All, in all maybe it could be the Amp that you're using that doesn't match the T1's or maybe it's just that the T1's doesn't match your taste.

 

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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

 

A tube buffer isn't meant to boost your amp. A lot of people like the sound of tube gear either instead of or in addition to solid state gear, like the A1 amp you have. A tube buffer imparts a touch of tube warmth to the overall sonic signature of your amp/source, which can sometimes allow the sound to be fleshed out a bit more and/or smooth over the treble.  I don't know if you've ever heard an analog system with a good turntable, but tubes can help to allow digital music to sound a bit more like vinyl....a bit more warmth and body is sometimes what you'll notice. Having a tube buffer allows you to keep the "balls" of your solid state gear while adding in subtle amounts of the qualities I mentioned. Some people love tubes, others dont, and yet others dont hear any difference. Only you can really decide for yourself. Personally, I love how my T1s sound straight out of my Meier amp, but I like it a touch better when I have the buffer engaged. It also allows you to "tube roll", which just means you try out different types of tubes, in order to find the sort of "flavor" you like best. 

 

This particular buffer has a guy on youtube demonstrating the audible effects of when you have it on and off while he's playing acoustic guitar. If you listen to the video with headphones, you can pretty easily discern the differences. It's a very cool demo. 

 

Thank you very much for the clarification on that subject. Now I got more to go on then, I would appreciate if you could link me that youtube video if it's not too much to ask. I will definitely look in to this tube buffer, what you're explaining to me sounds great and worth taking a look at :) Maybe I can hear a difference, maybe not, we'll see..

post #3253 of 10478
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Thank you very much for the clarification on that subject. Now I got more to go on then, I would appreciate if you could link me that youtube video if it's not too much to ask. I will definitely look in to this tube buffer, what you're explaining to me sounds great and worth taking a look at :) Maybe I can hear a difference, maybe not, we'll see..

 

Here you go...definitely use headphones when you listen...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsRhIFJzFug

post #3254 of 10478

i can say with authority that the Phoenix drives the T1 very well indeed in full balanced config. good meaty textured extended bass, balanced mids & extended detailed highs. its a darn fine all rounder thats good with pop, jazz, r&b & rock/metal - indeed Diana Krall & my fav jazz diva Zee Avi sounds wonderfully intimate & clear, Eric Clapton's Unplugged, Santana's Guitar Heaven "Bang A Gong" rocks & slams hard, Axel Foley (theme from Beverlys Cop - my fav electronic test track) goes deep & thunderous, Tracy Chapman's Fast Car, etc ... all sounds great!

 

only caveat about the Phoenix is that its not just a space heater but it needs to reach space heater temps before it starts to perform. i believe theres a couple of Phoenix's forsale right now too. FWIW, it also drives the AKG K702, Grado PS500 & ATH W1000X quite well although its best with the T1 IMO ofcos.

post #3255 of 10478

I have auditor but I dont know how my t1 sounds like with other amps tho. :/

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