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post #3016 of 10479
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Originally Posted by LogicalDisconnect View Post

I think it also depends on your point of reference. Coming from a K701 and MS2i, I felt that my T1 had much deeper bass, much smoother treble and overall a much more coherent sound. But I still find the treble a bit hot for my tastes, at least with my solid-state amps.

I have both solid state and tube amp and strangely find that the T1 is less hot in the treble with the ss amp but lacks other benefits of the tube amp. I solved that problem with the use of some modest eq. Since I use my computer as my source it was a simple matter to make a slight eq adjustment to match the T1 to my tube amp. I use Electri-Q which is a free parametric eq that does not alter the sound at all except at those frequencies specified. I find a slight eq made a world of difference for me and makes the T1 entirely enjoyable for all it's strong points. I read many posts from owners with comments about slight frequency bumps that they wish were not there (HD800 owners also). It is such a simple matter to eq out those peaks that can make the T1 sing. We all hear a little differently and that is why small adjustments through eq can make your listening much more enjoyable. Now I expect to get flamed by the anti-eq forces.

post #3017 of 10479

Sorry if this has been asked already, but it seems that Amazon has the lowest price for these at the moment.  However, they are still close to $1100.  Are there better prices out there for a new pair of T1s?

post #3018 of 10479
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Originally Posted by draven5494 View Post

Sorry if this has been asked already, but it seems that Amazon has the lowest price for these at the moment.  However, they are still close to $1100.  Are there better prices out there for a new pair of T1s?

If you're lucky enough you may find some used T1's from amazon warehouse deals for ~$600. You've either got to be really lucky or have lots of time on your hands to snag them at those prices. Or you can get a bundle from somewhere (I forget where though) for about the price you mentioned that comes with an amp.


Edited by itshot - 8/13/12 at 6:13am
post #3019 of 10479

Wow, the price just shot back up to $1400 on Amazon!  I am definitely in hold mode now.  $1100 was already pushing it.

post #3020 of 10479
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Originally Posted by itshot View Post

If you're lucky enough you may find some used T1's from amazon warehouse deals for ~$600. You've either got to be really lucky or have lots of time on your hands to snag them at those prices. Or you can get a bundle from somewhere (I forget where though) for about the price you mentioned that comes with an amp.

Or you get really lucky and wake up to see they're ~$560 and use 1 click to grab a set. wink.gif
post #3021 of 10479

How often do they sell for $600 ?

post #3022 of 10479
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


Or you get really lucky and wake up to see they're ~$560 and use 1 click to grab a set. wink.gif

 

I was up at 3.45 when I got mine lol

post #3023 of 10479

I think Todd (TTVJ) has one demo unit on sale for $1000.

post #3024 of 10479
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Originally Posted by Chodi View Post

I have both solid state and tube amp and strangely find that the T1 is less hot in the treble with the ss amp but lacks other benefits of the tube amp. I solved that problem with the use of some modest eq. Since I use my computer as my source it was a simple matter to make a slight eq adjustment to match the T1 to my tube amp. I use Electri-Q which is a free parametric eq that does not alter the sound at all except at those frequencies specified. I find a slight eq made a world of difference for me and makes the T1 entirely enjoyable for all it's strong points. I read many posts from owners with comments about slight frequency bumps that they wish were not there (HD800 owners also). It is such a simple matter to eq out those peaks that can make the T1 sing. We all hear a little differently and that is why small adjustments through eq can make your listening much more enjoyable. Now I expect to get flamed by the anti-eq forces.

Fully agree. 

Though I try to first get it to suit my listening preference by changing tubes, sources, etc.

But for my Thunderpants, I just couldn't get it right and therefore finally used the eq setting on the iPod and now its good.

post #3025 of 10479
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Originally Posted by SHAHZADA123 View Post

Fully agree. 

Though I try to first get it to suit my listening preference by changing tubes, sources, etc.

But for my Thunderpants, I just couldn't get it right and therefore finally used the eq setting on the iPod and now its good.

I had to laugh...I saw in your profile that you have gotten rid of almost every headphone and amp I am waiting to buy. I really have been thinking about getting the Stax 009. Maybe you could mention why you kept the T1 and sold the 009? not to mention that you discarded the Woo amp? We really should talk.

post #3026 of 10479
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Originally Posted by Chodi View Post

I had to laugh...I saw in your profile that you have gotten rid of almost every headphone and amp I am waiting to buy. I really have been thinking about getting the Stax 009. Maybe you could mention why you kept the T1 and sold the 009? not to mention that you discarded the Woo amp? We really should talk.

An unexpected financial need arose and the Stax 009/WES had to go.

Hopefully I'll buy one in December.

 

The T1 is really different and unique in its presentation and I do enjoy it. 

IMO, at the top level, most headphones have excellent attributes and very little drawbacks which is what I love.

I generally am able to listen for 4-5 hours everyday and keep switching between headphones/amps keeping the source & music constant.wink_face.gif

post #3027 of 10479

I have always been surprised so many people consider the T1's bright. Maybe I got lucky with mine but there is no excessive brightness with the Woo6se, Audio-gd Roc or balanced out of my Audio-gd Master-6.

 

I know they have that 'peak' (8-10khz if I remember correctly)  in the highs but I have read before that apart from cymbals and some high pitched vocals very few other instruments play in that range.

 

In comparison to my other phones, all balanced on the Master-6, the T1's are only slightly brighter than the HE6's and the HE6's are also fractionally brighter, on some but not all disks, than the LCD2.2 with Twag silver cable.

post #3028 of 10479
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

I have always been surprised so many people consider the T1's bright. Maybe I got lucky with mine but there is no excessive brightness with the Woo6se, Audio-gd Roc or balanced out of my Audio-gd Master-6.

 

I know they have that 'peak' (8-10khz if I remember correctly)  in the highs but I have read before that apart from cymbals and some high pitched vocals very few other instruments play in that range.

 

In comparison to my other phones, all balanced on the Master-6, the T1's are only slightly brighter than the HE6's and the HE6's are also fractionally brighter, on some but not all disks, than the LCD2.2 with Twag silver cable.

 

+1 I think I also got lucky.  The peak is there but I have to listen for it and then only in certain recordings.

post #3029 of 10479

I do not find the T1s bright at all.

The treble is well extended and sparkly but not strident at all. 

OTOH, the HE-6s had a more energetic treble presentation and some sibilance as well.

post #3030 of 10479
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Originally Posted by SHAHZADA123 View Post

I do not find the T1s bright at all.

The treble is well extended and sparkly but not strident at all. 

OTOH, the HE-6s had a more energetic treble presentation and some sibilance as well.

 

I remember when I first got my HE6 and I commented that they had more sibiance than the LCD2.1 (that I had at the time) and the T1's.

People generally replied that it is only showing the sibilance my system already had. Considering neither of my other phones emphasised any sibilance I dismissed that assumption out of hand.

Since I got my Master-6 excessive sibilance on the HE6 has been eliminated. Maybe it was a power issue or the Master-6 is just a better amp which obviously it is!!

In fact I feel that the HE6's can be warmer than my LCD2.2!

I have ordered a Toxic Audio Silver Poison cable for the HE6's to actually try and brighten them up a bit.


Edited by nigeljames - 8/14/12 at 7:24am
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