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It needs to be plugged in, so it's not portable. I don't think there are any portable amps powerful enough for the T1, especially with lack of a source 

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Hello guys I'm planning to get a T1 but I'm still thinking what amp will I get to drive the T1

what do you guys think about burson HA160D + T1?

thanks

post #2703 of 10479
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

Welcome to Club T1! I think the Burson is a great amp and I think it sounds great with the T1, though the general consensus thinks otherwise. It's a little bit of a bright amp, but not so much. What's nice is that it has a DAC and a pre-amp built in, so those are a plus to me. 

 

If you do not need the DAC or pre-amp, you could look into a SPL Auditor. It's a very neutral amp and a perfect match for the T1. As a piece of studio gear you can bet it's highly detailed and resolving, though not clinical or bright. A downside is it is not optimized for low impedance loads at all.

 

If you want warmth and musicality, then look to the Violectric V200. It's a very warm sounding solid state amp and can drive the T1 effortlessly. It has a euphonic or tube like signature which is pleasing and non-fatiguing. Also the amp can drive a wide range of impedance loads.

 

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Originally Posted by NAYOSO View Post

Hello guys I'm planning to get a T1 but I'm still thinking what amp will I get to drive the T1

what do you guys think about burson HA160D + T1?

thanks

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Originally Posted by littlexsparkee View Post

It needs to be plugged in, so it's not portable. I don't think there are any portable amps powerful enough for the T1, especially with lack of a source 

 

For what it's worth, Jan Meier assured me that his 2Stepdance portable amp would drive the T1s with no trouble. 

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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

For what it's worth, Jan Meier assured me that his 2Stepdance portable amp would drive the T1s with no trouble. 

2Stepdance is a very good and powerful portable amp, but no way it would drive T1 to my satisfaction. Sure you'd have enough gain, but not enough refinement. Not enough anything... T1 scales very good and IMO it needs a very good amp and a very good source as well. If this is not the case, I'd buy something else

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Originally Posted by littlexsparkee View Post

 I don't think there are any portable amps powerful enough for the T1, especially with lack of a source 

 

Wait until you have chance to listen Fostex Hpp1 and Lisa L3 to drive T1 :)

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Originally Posted by librarian View Post

2Stepdance is a very good and powerful portable amp, but no way it would drive T1 to my satisfaction. Sure you'd have enough gain, but not enough refinement. Not enough anything... T1 scales very good and IMO it needs a very good amp and a very good source as well. If this is not the case, I'd buy something else

I'm not surprised you feel that way given that you own the beautiful Isabellina! :)

 

I am only going on what Jan told me, and quite honestly the next time he gives me improper information will be the first. I would certainly agree with you that the T1s scale, and that the 2Stepdance would not be their ideal match, but for someone who might be looking for a portable amp in addition to their main amp, who would like to incorporate some portability with their T1s instead of perhaps needing to purchase another pair of headphones, it sounds like this might be a very nice option. Besides, having experience with the Jazz and T1 combo, I can attest to the fact that Jan's amps are a nice pairing with the Beyers for those who like solid state. 

 

Just as a side note of interest for my fellow T1 lovers, the other day I had taken my iPhone 4, Meier Jazz, and T1s with me to audition them for a friend. This was his first time hearing audiophile level headphones and quite frankly he did not even realize they made headamps. It reminded me of where I was back prior to November of last year when I knew literally nothing of this side of the audio world. Anyway, I used a mini-to-RCA cable to connect my iPhone to the Jazz, fired up a John Mayer track (lossless file of "Dreaming with a Broken Heart" that I had on my iPhone) and let him have a listen. The look on his face was priceless! Just like myself previously, he had absolutely no idea of what was possible with headphones...it was a very fun audition for both of us, albeit for different reasons :)


Edited by Focker - 6/25/12 at 3:04am
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For portability I'd take the T70 over the T1 anytime. IMO a properly driven T70 sounds better than a poorly driven T1. There is also the T70P and T5P. I can't understand why anyone would use T1 as a portable headphone. If you have a nice desktop amp at home, you'll never be satisfied listening to T1 with less than that. Just my opinion of course...

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Thread Starter 

Yo,

 

Exactly! That's the reason I bought the T5p. The T1 sin't all that hard to drive but they are open and have a bulky cable. The T5p is light and compact and suited for travel.

 

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Originally Posted by librarian View Post

For portability I'd take the T70 over the T1 anytime. IMO a properly driven T70 sounds better than a poorly driven T1. There is also the T70P and T5P. I can't understand why anyone would use T1 as a portable headphone. If you have a nice desktop amp at home, you'll never be satisfied listening to T1 with less than that. Just my opinion of course...

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Hi people, I'd really like to know - in a very detailed way - how does the T1 relates to the DT990 600Ohms, please.
They (DT990 600Ohm and T1) do share the same soundsiganture, right (?): If so, how and where the T1 clearly improves over the DT990 sound? And, if not, how different are they, please?

Greatly apretiate your input! Really.


PS: not wanting to thread-jack or anything, but if any of you T1 owners also got some listening experience with Grados/Magnums (Symphonies), I'd also really like your opinion - even if really fast - here:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614219/beyerdynamic-or-grado#post_8485372 *

*Thank you so much!
Edited by faverodefavero - 6/26/12 at 9:14am
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Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

The T1 and DT990 sound very different. The DT990 is much brighter and has more bass, but looses the mids. Also the detail on the DT990 is not nearly as good as the T1. The T1 is still far superior in many ways and is a warmer version of the DT880, though more of an evolution I'd say.

 

I used to own a Magnum v2.5 and they were one dark headphone. They had lots of bass and a pretty smooth sound. They also had really good mids. The soundstage was still tiny but the imaging seemed to improve a lot. They sound nothing like the T1 at all. The T1 is much more neutral and flat sounding.

 

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Originally Posted by faverodefavero View Post

Hi people, I'd really like to know - in a very detailed way - how does the T1 relates to the DT990 600Ohms, please.
They (DT990 600Ohm and T1) do share the same soundsiganture, right (?): If so, how and where the T1 clearly improves over the DT990 sound? And, if not, how different are they, please?

Greatly apretiate your input! Really.

PS: not wanting to thread-jack or anything, but if any of you T1 owners also got some listening experience with Grados/Magnums (Symphonies), I'd also really like your opinion - even if really fast - here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614219/beyerdynamic-or-grado#post_8485372 *
*Thank you so much!
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I haven't fully burned in the T1 to compare, but I never got the impression that the DT880 was somehow analytical or lacking warmth. It seems like the 880 has slightly rolled off highs with a relaxed sound. Everyone seems to describe it as very bright, which I don't see.

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Originally Posted by librarian View Post

For portability I'd take the T70 over the T1 anytime. IMO a properly driven T70 sounds better than a poorly driven T1. There is also the T70P and T5P. I can't understand why anyone would use T1 as a portable headphone. If you have a nice desktop amp at home, you'll never be satisfied listening to T1 with less than that. Just my opinion of course...

 

Yes, that's why I bought DT1350s. The point is that for those who would like a portable option for their T1s, for whatever reason that may be, the 2Stepdance is apparently able to drive them just fine. 

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Originally Posted by faverodefavero View Post

Hi people, I'd really like to know - in a very detailed way - how does the T1 relates to the DT990 600Ohms, please.
They (DT990 600Ohm and T1) do share the same soundsiganture, right (?): If so, how and where the T1 clearly improves over the DT990 sound? And, if not, how different are they, please?
Greatly apretiate your input! Really.
PS: not wanting to thread-jack or anything, but if any of you T1 owners also got some listening experience with Grados/Magnums (Symphonies), I'd also really like your opinion - even if really fast - here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614219/beyerdynamic-or-grado#post_8485372 *
*Thank you so much!

 

I"m a Beyerdynamic/Grado guy and have made six combined headphone purchases from these companies...currently the Grado PS500 is my favorite headphone, just slightly nudging out the T1. 

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If you think the PS500 is a bit better than the T1, my guess is that the PS1000 - for you, at least - would be even better (when I say "better", I mean "more pleasant" not technically better/more neutral -- The T1 is clearly  more technically advanced and more accurate/neutral).

 

I am truly starting to think that, me owning the HD800, the PS1000 would make a fine, "warmer" and "crisper", change.

 

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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

I"m a Beyerdynamic/Grado guy and have made six combined headphone purchases from these companies...currently the Grado PS500 is my favorite headphone, just slightly nudging out the T1. 

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